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Old 05-31-2010, 00:55   #1
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Israeli Commandos Attack Gaza Aid Convoy

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Israeli Commandos Attack Gaza Aid Convoy

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MAY 31, 2010, 2:34 A.M. ET
Israeli commandos on Monday stormed six ships carrying hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists on an aid mission to the blockaded Gaza Strip, setting off fierce battles in which at least four people were killed and dozens were wounded.

There were conflicting accounts of what happened.

The Israeli military said at least four pro-Palestinian activists were killed after attacking naval commandos with knives and clubs as they boarded the six vessels. It said soldiers opened fire after a protester grabbed a weapon from one of the commandos. "The people on the boats were very, very violent toward the soldiers," said Israeli military spokeswoman Lt. Col. Avital Leibovich.

The army said dozens of people were wounded, both soldiers and activists, and it was evacuating the casualties from the Mediterranean by helicopter.

Al-Jazeera, meanwhile, reported by telephone from the Turkish ship leading the flotilla that Israeli navy forces fired at the ship and boarded it, wounding the captain.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry, citing "preliminary information," said at least two people were killed and more than 30 wounded. Turkey's NTV, which had a reporter on board one of the ships, also said two were killed.

NTV showed activists beating one Israeli soldier with sticks as he rappelled from a helicopter onto one of the boats.

A Turkish website showed video of pandemonium on board one of the ships, with activists in orange life jackets running around as some tried to help an activist apparently unconscious on the deck. The site also showed video of an Israeli helicopter flying overhead and Israeli warships nearby.

There were no details on the identities of the casualties, or on the conditions of some of the more prominent people on board, including a Nobel peace laureate and an elderly Holocaust survivor. Satellite phones on board the ships were turned off, and communication with a small group of reporters embedded with the Israeli military was blocked.

In Turkey, which had unofficially supported the aid mission, news of the attack sparked violent protests. Police blocked dozens of stone-throwing protesters who tried to storm the Israeli consulate in Istanbul.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry condemned the Israeli raid and said it was summoning the Israeli ambassador for an "urgent explanation." It says Israel violated international law and will suffer consequences. The Israeli military denied its forces attacked the boats, saying soldiers were under orders only to use fire if their lives were in danger.

Some 700 pro-Palestinian activists were on the boats, including 1976 Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead Corrigan Maguire of Northern Ireland, European legislators and Holocaust survivor Hedy Epstein, 85....

After nightfall Sunday, three Israeli navy missile boats left their base in Haifa, steaming out to sea to confront the ships. Two hours later, Israel Radio broadcast a recording of one of the missile boats warning the flotilla not to approach Gaza. "If you ignore this order and enter the blockaded area, the Israeli navy will be forced to take all the necessary measures in order to enforce this blockade," the radio message continued....

Israel rejects claims of a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, saying it allows more than enough food and medicine into the territory. The Israelis also point to the bustling smuggling industry along Gaza's southern border with Egypt, which has managed to bring consumer goods, gasoline and livestock into the seaside strip.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-flotilla.html

At least 16 dead as Israeli troops storm Gaza aid flotilla

By Richard Spencer, Middle East Correspondent and Matthew Kalman in Jerusalem
Published: 7:21AM BST 31 May 2010
Fighting broke out between the activists and the masked Israeli troops, who rappelled on to deck from helicopters before dawn.

A spokesman for the flotilla, Greta Berlin, said she had been told that ten people had been killed and dozens wounded, accusing Israeli troops of indiscriminately shooting at "unarmed civilians". But an Israeli radio station said that between 14 and 16 were dead in a continuing operation....

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....Israeli army Spokesman Brig.-Gen. Avi Beneyahu said that forces along Israel’s border were on alert against possible rocket attacks from Lebanon and Gaza, as well as potential violence in the West Bank and east Jerusalem.

Meanwhile, Israel Police have begun deploying across the country, particularly in areas of Israeli Arab towns, to head off potential rioting by sympathizers with the flotilla.

“Police are deploying in areas across the country in order to prevent disturbances from taking place,” said Mickey Rosenfeld, spokesman for Israel Police.

The commandos assaulted the boats, climbing aboard from rafts and dropping from helicopters.

The army said the activists attacked soldiers with knifes, clubs and a rifle snatched from an Israeli commando, injuring four Israeli servicemen. The injured were all being transported to Israel for treatment.

“Every serviceman encountered violent reaction," Beneyahu said. "Let’s say they didn’t look like peace activists.”....
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Old 05-31-2010, 07:10   #2
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I just don't understand all the people who are against Israel's actions on this.

Israel offered to allow the aid to go through their port and warned the flotilla several times that they would not allow them to break the blockade. The flotilla ignored repeated warnings and requests to turn back or head to the port. Why would anyone expect Israel to allow Hamas (an organization that has repeatedly, publicly vowed to wipe israel from the face of the earth as I understand it) to receive 6 ships worth of goods unchecked by Iraeli forces?

When Israel's troops finally boarded the ship, they were attacked. What in the world do people expect will happen when they attack armed soldiers with knives and axes? Why is it so surprising that the soliders defended themselves?

I actually read one commentary where the person talking said the soldiers should have used rubber bullets. Who expects that? They are soldiers, not police officers. And even if they were police and not military, why is there a belief that it is wrong to use lethal force against someone who is trying to kill you with a knife simply because that person claims to be a civillian? Don't you stop being an innocent civillian once you attack a solider?

I just don't get it.
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Old 05-31-2010, 10:28   #3
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Video released by the IDF

Video of the assault.
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Old 05-31-2010, 10:46   #4
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I wonder how many rockets, weapons, and ammo were on those "relief" ships.

And the idiots do not even realize they are tools for the enemy.

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Old 05-31-2010, 11:26   #5
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A couple videos from the deck of the target vessel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhgt7KY1iQs


This one is the same initial footage, but only about 20 seconds overall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8zVD6C3C1k
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:37   #6
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I wonder how many rockets, weapons, and ammo were on those "relief" ships.

And the idiots do not even realize they are tools for the enemy.

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TR, I was thinking the exact thoughts when I saw the video.
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Old 05-31-2010, 12:06   #7
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Even if they do find any weapons, the IHH will claim that it was planted by Israel and the media will eat it up.
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Old 05-31-2010, 12:27   #8
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Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkL...has_verified=1
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Old 05-31-2010, 13:26   #9
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Sure an odd way......

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Sure an odd way to held the IDF get their footing on the deck.

It looked as if the Peace Protesters were a bit violent.

Easy to be brave as the first guy or two is coming off the rope.

Noticed things dropped off real quick as more IDF troops hit the deck.
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Old 05-31-2010, 14:35   #10
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Maybe its just me......but at 50 seconds + are those Israelis holding paintball guns ????
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Old 05-31-2010, 14:51   #11
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Maybe its just me......but at 50 seconds + are those Israelis holding paintball guns ????
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Monday morning quarterback...

Ok, how about dropping some CS or rubber ball grenades before hitting the deck? The welcoming party didn't look very hospitable. In the video it looked like it was already light but if circumstances would have permited how about boarding just before dawn when most of the people would have been asleep?

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Maybe its just me......but at 50 seconds + are those Israelis holding paintball guns ????
Well spotted!!!!

"Officials estimated that passengers will show slight resistance, and possibly minor violence; for that reason, the operation’s commander decided to bring the helicopter directly above the top deck. The first rope that soldiers used in order to descend down to the ship was wrested away by activists, most of them Turks, and tied to an antenna with the hopes of bringing the chopper down. However, Flotilla 13 fighters decided to carry on.

Navy commandoes slid down to the vessel one by one, yet then the unexpected occurred: The passengers that awaited them on the deck pulled out bats, clubs, and slingshots with glass marbles, assaulting each soldier as he disembarked. The fighters were nabbed one by one and were beaten up badly, yet they attempted to fight back.

However, to their misfortune, they were only equipped with paintball rifles used to disperse minor protests, such as the ones held in Bilin. The paintballs obviously made no impression on the activists, who kept on beating the troops up and even attempted to wrest away their weapons.

One soldier who came to the aid of a comrade was captured by the rioters and sustained severe blows. The commandoes were equipped with handguns but were told they should only use them in the face of life-threatening situations. When they came down from the chopper, they kept on shouting to each other “don’t shoot, don’t shoot,” even though they sustained numerous blows..."

Full report here: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...896796,00.html
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Old 05-31-2010, 17:09   #14
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http://www.savethechildren.net/allia...rgencies/gaza/

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For more than two years the blockade of the Gaza Strip has caused a protracted human dignity crisis that is reflected in almost every aspect of daily life: over 140,000 people, willing and able to work, are currently unemployed with over a million living in poverty and reliant on food aid. Most of the 6,420 families whose homes were destroyed or severely damaged during the last military offensive are still displaced due to the ongoing ban on the entry of construction materials. In the extreme summer heat in Gaza, almost no one has continuous electricity supply to operate refrigerators or air conditioning, and some people still have no access electricity at all. Patients requiring specialized medical treatment unavailable in Gaza must overcome a long and arduous permit processing system, resulting in unnecessary anguish and stress.

This blockade is collectively punishing the entire Gazan population. The UN, the ICRC, many states and humanitarian organizations, have repeatedly urged the Government of Israel to remove the restrictions on Gaza’s borders as well as to allow free access to agricultural areas within Gaza and to fishing areas in Gaza’s territorial waters. These are the urgent first steps needed to start the reconstruction of homes and infrastructure, the revival of the economy, and the restoration of human dignity in Gaza.
Can probably assume that this was something in the lines of a last resort from the pro palestinians.

Also its pretty clear the activists had prepared for the boarding, so why would they use whatever weapons they found available? (chairs, ironbars, clubs etc)
If they had stores of "proper" weapons with them...

All in all im kind of doubtful to if we'll ever see a true and unbiased version of this.
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There is another ship heading towards Gaza. It is called the "Rachel Corrie".

http://aliabunimah.posterous.com/iri...-proceeding-to
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