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Old 05-02-2010, 09:12   #1
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Car bomb in NYC

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NEW YORK (May 2) - Police found an "amateurish" but potentially powerful bomb that apparently began to detonate but did not explode in a smoking sport utility vehicle in Times Square, authorities said Sunday.

Thousands of tourists were cleared from the streets for 10 hours after two vendors alerted police to the suspicious vehicle, which contained three propane tanks, fireworks, two filled 5-gallon gasoline containers, and two clocks with batteries, electrical wire and other components, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.

"We avoided what we could have been a very deadly event," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. "It certainly could have exploded and had a pretty big fire and a decent amount of explosive impact."

The bomb appeared to be starting to detonate but malfunctioned, top police spokesman Paul Browne said Sunday.

Firefighters who arrived shortly after the first call heard a popping sound, said Fire Commissioner Sal Cassano, who described the sound as not quite an explosion.

"I think the intent was to cause a significant ball of fire," Kelly said.

No suspects were in custody, though Kelly said a surveillance video showed the car driving west on 45th Street before it parked between Seventh and Eighth avenues. Police were looking for more video from office buildings that weren't open at the time.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that officials are treating the incident as a potential terrorist attack though it's too soon to tell who's responsible. Napolitano added that while investigators have no suspects, they have recovered forensic evidence, including fingerprints from the vehicle.

The mayor said it's not surprising the city is a frequent target of terrorism. "These things invariably ... come back to New York," Bloomberg said.

A T-shirt vendor and a handbag vendor alerted police at about 6:30 p.m, the height of dinner hour before theatergoers head to Saturday night shows.

Smoke was coming from the back of the dark-colored Pathfinder, its hazard lights were on and "it was just sitting there," said Rallis Gialaboukis, 37, another vendor who has hawked his wares for 20 years across the street.

Duane Jackson, a 58-year-old handbag vendor from Buchanan, N.Y., said he noticed the car at around 6:30 p.m. and wondered who had left it there.

"That was my first thought: Who sat this car here?" Jackson said Sunday.

Jackson said he looked in the car and saw keys in the ignition with 19 or 20 keys on a ring.

He said he alerted a passing mounted police officer.

"That's when the smoke started coming out and then we heard the little pop pop pop like firecrackers going out and that's when everybody scattered and ran back," he said.

"Now that I saw the propane tanks and the gasoline, what if that would have ignited?" Jackson said. "I'm less than 8 feet away from the car. We dodged a bullet here."

He didn't think the car had been there for more than 10 or 15 minutes.

A white robotic police arm broke windows of the SUV to remove any explosive materials. A Connecticut license plate on the vehicle did not match up, Bloomberg said. Police interviewed the Connecticut car owner, who told them he had sent the plates to a nearby junkyard, Bloomberg said.

The SUV was towed early Sunday to a forensic lab in Queens, where it was being "thoroughly checked for prints, hairs and fibers," Browne said Sunday. Napolitano said fingerprints had been recovered from the vehicle.

Heavily armed police and emergency vehicles shut down the city's busiest streets, choked with taxis and people on one of the first summer-like days of the year. Times Square lies about four traffic-choked miles north of where terrorists bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, then laid waste to it on Sept. 11, 2001.

The car was parked on one of the prime blocks for Broadway shows, with seven theaters housing such big shows as "The Lion King" and "Billy Elliot."

The curtain at "God of Carnage" and "Red" opened a half-hour later than usual, but the shows were not canceled, said spokesman Adrian Bryan-Brown.

Katy Neubauer, 46, and Becca Saunders, 39, of Milwaukee, were shopping for souvenirs two blocks south of the SUV when they saw panicked crowds.

"It was a mass of people running away from the scene," Neubauer said.

Said Saunders: "There were too many people, too many cops. I've never seen anything like it."

Bloomberg left early from the White House correspondent's dinner Saturday night. President Barack Obama, who attended the annual gala, praised the quick response by the New York Police Department, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said.

He has also directed his homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, to advise New York officials that the federal government is prepared to provide support.

Brennan and others will keep Obama up to date on the investigation, Shapiro said.

The FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force in New York responded along with the NYPD, said agent Richard Kolko.

The latest terror threat in New York came last fall when air shuttle driver Najibullah Zazi admitted to a foiled homemade bomb plot aimed at the city subway system.

The theater district in London was the target of a propane bomb attack in 2007. No one was injured when police discovered two Mercedes loaded with nails packed around canisters of propane and gasoline.

Officials said the device found Saturday was crudely constructed, but Islamic militants have used propane and compressed gas for years to enhance the force of explosives. Those instances include the 1983 suicide attack on the U.S. Marines barracks at the Beirut airport that killed 241 U.S. service members, and the 2007 attack on the international airport in Glasgow, Scotland.

In 2007, the U.S. military announced that an al-Qaida front group was using propane to rig car bombs in Iraq.

Times Square has been a frequent target, if not for potential terrorists, then for rabble-rousers.

In December, a parked van without license plates led police to block off part of the area for about two hours. A police robot examined the vehicle, and clothes, racks and scarves were found inside.

In March 2008, a hooded bicyclist hurled an explosive device at a military recruiting center, producing a flash, smoke and full-scale emergency response. No suspect was ever identified.

Police have spent years trying to crack down on street hustlers and peddlers preying on tourists. But there have been two major gunfights in recent months. A street hustler armed with a machine pistol exchanged shots in December, shattering a Broadway theater ticket window, before police fatally shot him.

Four shootings and more than 50 arrests on a mile-long stretch of Manhattan last month around Times Square prompted the mayor to call the mayhem "wilding."

Contributing to this report were AP Washington bureau chief Ron Fournier, AP Radio correspondent Julie Walker in New York and Associated Press writers Eileen Sullivan and Pete Yost in Washington, Michael Kuchwara in New York and Robert H. Reid in Kabul.
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Old 05-02-2010, 09:21   #2
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Similar to 2007 Glasgow airport bombing

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/02...ombing/?hpt=T1

As authorities conduct their investigation into a car bomb found in Times Square, a federal law enforcement official said the incident was most similar to the events leading up to the 2007 bombing at the airport in Glasgow.

In June 2007, authorities discovered two explosives-filled Mercedes sedans in central London.

One of the cars was parked outside a packed nightclub near Piccadilly Circus and the other was parked just off Trafalgar Square. Like Times Square, both locations are major tourist spots in London.

An ambulance crew notified police about the first car after they saw smoke coming from it. The second car was towed for a parking offense but drew suspicion because it smelled of gasoline.

Officials later said both cars cars were filled with fuel, gas canisters and nails. Police managed to defuse them.

The following day, with attention still focused on the averted attacks in the capital, a Jeep sped through the barriers outside Glasgow International Airport and slammed head-on into the terminal.

The Jeep, filled with propane gas, burst into flames and created a fireball. The driver and passenger jumped out of the car.

The driver, Kafeel Ahmed, set himself on fire and later died in the hospital; the passenger was identified as Bilal Abdulla, an Iraqi doctor who had been practicing medicine in Scotland.

Later that day, police arrested Mohammed Asha as he was driving with his wife on a highway in Cheshire, England. Police said Asha, a doctor of Palestinian descent who grew up in Jordan, conspired with Abdulla to carry out the explosions, but the jury did not agree.

Based on other evidence collected in the investigation, police believe the London bombs were to have been the first in a series of similar attacks. They said it was only luck that prevented the London bombs from going off.

In December 2008, a London jury found Abdulla guilty of conspiracy to murder and conspiring to cause explosions. In a split verdict, the jury acquitted Asha.

A Washington Post Article about the 2007 London Car Bombs:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062900160.html

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Old 05-02-2010, 09:35   #3
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Making a car bomb isn't as easy as most think. It takes some expertise. The problem is that there are those within the US already who are willing to try.

There are those (even some 18Cs) who will say stupid things like "P=plenty" and "It takes (fill in the blank) wraps of det cord to (fill in the blank)". Anyone who knows me knows that I despise either of those phrases - any jackass can do that. It takes a professional with proper training and following proper techniques to make them work as advertised.

Unless a terrorist is properly schooled in explosive charges, we're relatively safe. We are fortunate that the perps in this case were as poorly trained as the incident last night along with the last string of attempted attacks in London and Glasgow.

If there're knuckleheads in the US who are thinking of setting off mass casualty producing devices, they will eventually link up with someone who can point them in the right direction. Swift action is required here.
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Old 05-02-2010, 14:55   #4
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Pakistani Taliban claims responsibility

Story is here

Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb

By RYAN LUCAS (AP) – 2 hours ago

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CAIRO — The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility in a video released Sunday for the attempted car bomb attack in Times Square in New York City.

In the 1 minute, 11 second video allegedly released by the Pakistani Taliban, the group says the attack is revenge for the death of its leader, Baitullah Mehsud, and the recent slayings of the top leaders of al-Qaida in Iraq — Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri — who were killed by U.S. and Iraqi troops last month north of Baghdad.

An unidentified speaker on the tape, uncovered by the U.S-based SITE monitoring group, also says the attack comes in response to American "interference and terrorism in Muslim Countries, especially in Pakistan."

The claim could not be immediately confirmed. The tape makes no specific reference to the attack; it does not mention that it was a car bomb or that it took place in New York City.

A text in gold letters on a black background at the start of the video congratulates Muslims for the "jaw-breaking blow to Satan's USA." As the speaker recites the message, images of the slain militants referred to flash across the screen. English subtitles are provided at the bottom of the screen.

The video was uncovered Sunday by SITE, which monitors militant websites and has been accurate with such militant claims in the past.

The Pakistani Taliban is one of Pakistan's largest and deadliest militant groups. It has strong links to al-Qaida and is based in the northwest close to the Afghan border. The group has carried out scores of bloody attacks inside Pakistan in recent years, mostly against Pakistani targets, but it has made no secret of its hatred toward the United States.

If the claim of responsibility is genuine, it would be the first time the group has struck outside of South Asia.

Last year, its then commander, Baitullah Mehsud, vowed to "amaze everyone in the world" with an attack on Washington or even the White House. But Mehsud also reportedly said his men were behind a mass shooting in March 2009 at the American Civic Association in Binghamton in April 2009. That claim turned out to be false.
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Old 05-02-2010, 15:09   #5
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...uth_park_.html

Police eyeing link to South Park in Times Square car bomb

By Alison Gendar, Rocco Parascandola and Helen Kennedy
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Originally Published:Sunday, May 2nd 2010, 1:46 PM
Police hunting the man who parked a crude but powerful car bomb in Times Square Saturday night are looking into a possible link to a South Park cartoon lampooning censorship about Mohammed.

No link has been established, but threats against the Comedy Central animators were made by a New York Islamist Web site last month and police are aggressively looking for connections, sources told the Daily News.

The dark-colored Nissan SUV, its engine running and hazard lights flashing, was parked on W. 45th St. right next to the Broadway headquarters of Viacom, which owns Comedy Central....
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Old 05-02-2010, 17:30   #6
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The word terrorist/terrorism was used not less than five times...
...get it right people: we are dealing with "man caused disasters" not terrorism.



I also saw the term "Islamic militants"... come on folks, stay on point.
They are petty criminals, lets not bring religion into it.
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Old 05-02-2010, 18:51   #7
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Failed Bomb At Times Square Was A "Diversion" For Massive Explosion

It's a video from a NYC Channel

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...explosion.html

The weekend has been interesting from start to finish.

When I left they caught someone with cyanide in the subway....a possible attempted suicide and I come home to this.

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Failed Bomb At Times Square Was A "Diversion" For Massive Explosion

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Old 05-02-2010, 18:57   #9
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Jesus, white guy couldn't even get a simple car bomb right! Who the hell is vetting these guys for AQ? They need to be fired!
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From what the Police Commissioner had to say about the device it appears that the guy was pretty explosives challenged.
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:53   #11
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I'm suspicious of organizations or spokesmen who suddenly claim responsibility for these acts. Question that begs to be answered is which organization would benefit from claiming responsibility, not especially from doing the deed. Believing this was Taliban (with the ameturish ability of the builder) may lead us to the wrong conclusions. The South Park connection sounds more accurate. Wannabe's abound.
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The police and F.B.I. investigators have tracked down the owner of the 1993 Nissan Pathfinder that contained the makings of a crude car bomb discovered in Times Square over the weekend, but he is not considered a suspect, the police said on Monday.

“We’ve identified and spoken to the registered owner,” said Paul J. Browne, the Police Department’s chief spokesman, who stressed that the police had not yet identified a suspect or a motive. Nonetheless, the resolution of the vehicle’s provenance is a significant advancement in the 38-hour-old investigation.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/ny...er=rss&emc=rss
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Old 05-03-2010, 15:04   #13
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Green light - you are absolutely correct it. Some real idiots set this thing up. Which I am happy about as my pregnant daughter lives about two blocks from the site. Though I must admit i am a Charlie that still uses the saying "P=Plenty" but only as a joke. I still remember us all using it as a joke in those lovely old classrooms on smoke bomb hill.
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Video of the “white male in his 40's who sent thousands into a panic": Link.

Has anyone seen footage of the van being parked and exited?

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The South Park connection sounds more accurate. Wannabe's abound.
What SP connection?

Should a 20 year old white-boy be the focus of attention, for saying that SP creators will probably be killed by muslims for depicting mohammad, on a website with 12 members?

Who tipped off the Comedy Central network to this site?

Did any of the 200K Pakistani residents in the US write something similar?
(the original posting of 300K was wrong)

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Old 05-03-2010, 15:38   #15
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Video of the “white male in his 40's who sent thousands into a panic": Link.

What SP connection?
My God man...they showed Muhammad in a bear suit. Do we have to connect the dots for you????

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