Carolina Beach restaurant says "no" to screaming children

nmap · 09-09-2010, 05:45

I'm curious how others see this. Personally, I find screaming children annoying; however, I'm interested in what others think about this. Should more restaurants do this? Or should they not?

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Excerpt: CAROLINA BEACH, NC (WECT) - A restaurant in Carolina Beach is stirring up controversy over a couple of signs reading, "Screaming children will not be tolerated."

cold1 · 09-09-2010, 06:58

Personaly I agree that the restaurant has every right to to do it. I have two preschoolers and sometimes i dont want to hear them screaming either. We have even been know to ask for our plates to be boxed so that we could leave the other customers to dine without having to hear our kids.

To those without children: somedays they are angles and act perfectly in public, somedays they are little terrors that are truly uncontrolable.

Buffalobob · 09-09-2010, 07:50

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said Ashley Heflin, who is a mom of two. "You can't help it if your kids scream."

Parents like this should be sterilized or perhaps just euthanized on the spot so those genes are not allowed to propagate. They are also the ones that let their dogs run loose in the neighborhood to poop in other peoples yard.

I would note that there is a difference between a baby and a kid. I have lot of tolerance for a baby who may be teething or have some other discomfort that is not easily dealt with as long as the parents are at least trying to soothe the baby.

Richard · 09-09-2010, 08:01

Responsible parents will either not place their children in social situations they may not be ready for or correct/remove them if they prove incapable of acceptable behavior.

Goes with the territory.

And so it goes...

Richard

PedOncoDoc · 09-09-2010, 08:03

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Originally Posted by cold1

Personaly I agree that the restaurant has every right to to do it. We have even been know to ask for our plates to be boxed so that we could leave the other customers to dine without having to hear our kids.

As have we - as parents, we have assumed the responsibility for dealing with screaming children which includes not making others have to deal with our children when they misbehave IMNSHO.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobob

Parents like this should be sterilized or perhaps just euthanized on the spot so those genes are not allowed to propagate. They are also the ones that let their dogs run loose in the neighborhood to poop in other peoples yard.

A strong statement. I'd be less worried about their dogs pooping in my yard than I would be fearful that they are not teaching their children restraint and that there are consequences to all actions. A person who does not learn these things has a better chance of becoming a menace to society than those whose parents consistently held them accountable.

Dozer523 · 09-09-2010, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Buffalobob

Parents like this should be sterilized or perhaps just euthanized on the spot so those genes are not allowed to propagate.

Just guessing here, Bob, but . . . you didn't check "Yes, but done with a light hand".

The ones that bother me are the parents who don't quiet their children in church. There IS a quiet room with piped in sound and a picture window and it's got toys. And no, I don't think a toddler talking through mass, especially the sermon, or driving his her toy car over the pew (or my shoulders) is a child's way of worship.

During those times I wish the baptismal font was deeper.

**Pete** · 09-09-2010, 08:39

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Originally Posted by Dozer523

.......The ones that bother me are the parents who don't quiet their children in church. There IS a quiet room with piped in sound and a picture window and it's got toys. .........

In addition to the infant room with an attendant we have Children's Church. During the service there is the Children's portion where they all come up front and the preacher gives them a lesson that is tied to the sermon.

After that they go to a classroom where they continue the lesson with crafts and things while we get the sermon. It is aimed to the 3ish to 8ish and seems to work well.

But with three kids of my own and one grand baby I can tolerate babies as long as someone is working on them - but Brats? Give the family the strong boot out the door.

JJ_BPK · 09-09-2010, 08:41

I hate screamers,, to include little kids.

Problem is, in some instances the parents can't prevent the problem.

Case in point: My daughter flew down this Spring with the 2YO E. When she met us at the luggage claims, she and E were both in tears.

E had screamed all the way down. S was not only mad & embarrassed, but completely at a loss as to a solution.

E was diagnosed with a hearing problem and had tubes installed in both ears. The procedure was successful and happened about a month before they came down,, with the Doctor's consent.

Evidently the planes pressure system was not working well and the child was in pain. S thought she had preempted the problem with a children's benadryl an hour prior to take off,, didn't help.

Fortunately, the trip home E was back to smiling & giggling as is her passion..

As far as in restaurants and other public areas.. The parents lack of supervision and failure to maintain some level of control is responsible for 90% on the "problem" child's behavior.

Even if the child has a very valid medical problem, forcing the general populous to endure the problem is not acceptable.

SO,, YES,, kick'm out....

1stindoor · 09-09-2010, 09:27

One of my former team sergeants said, right after the birth of my son, "remember, your kid ain't as cute and precocious as YOU think he is."

He was a great team sergeant, taught me as much about life in general as he did about life in SF.

longrange1947 · 09-09-2010, 09:43

It is a parents responsibility to keep children under control. Resturants and planes are apples and oranges. Planes cause alot of problems for young children and they will let you know if they are hurting. Resturants have an outside that planes do n ot have. Take them out htere and handle it.

That said, the resturant is respecting the rights of all the other patrons. Too often it becomes "MY" right at the expense of all others. As someone said "your right ends at the tip of my nose" or in this case, at the end of my hearing range. Same goes with loud obnoxious music.

Hate to say "In my day", BUUUTTTTT, when I was a kid, I acted up I got straightened up. That needs to happen more frequently. I have sit and watched parents ignore a screaming kid while they continued doing what ever they were doing. Take the youngen outside, find out what is wrong and if it is a tantrum, handle it outside, not in my space.

My lousy 2 cnets on this one.

PS, yes I chose the first one.

1stindoor · 09-09-2010, 10:03

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Resturants have an outside that planes do not have. ....PS, yes I chose the first one.

Where have I been jumping?

longrange1947 · 09-09-2010, 10:06

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Originally Posted by 1stindoor

Where have I been jumping?

OK, OK, show me the "outside" you can take a kid until they settle down.

Jumping inside would just not make sense........

**The Reaper** · 09-09-2010, 10:12

I saw the mother on the news.

Just about what you would expect to bring this issue up. Looked like she might be fishing for an ADA lawsuit by claiming her child was autistic, and ignoring that IIRC, businesses in this country have the right to refuse service to anyone they choose. Appeared to be a Northern Privileged Liberal.

When my kids were young, and acted up in a restaurant, my wife or I took them outside and walked or played till the meal was up.

I have had a number of otherwise good meals ruined by other people's kids, and expected them to quiet their own as I would have. Just mutual respect and courtesy. Frequently, I have been disappointed. Some people feel that their personal comfort and enjoyment come before everyone else's.

IMHO, the restaurant owner is well with her rights to make this policy, and those who are offended by it should go elsewhere, making everyone happier.

My jeweler has a sign in his establishment stating, "Unsupervised children will be sold into slavery." We never tried him on it.

TR

1stindoor · 09-09-2010, 10:26

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

My jeweler has a sign in his establishment stating, "Unsupervised children will be sold into slavery." We never tried him on it.

TR

I saw a sign in an old "country store" near asheville that said, "Unsupervised children will be given a cup of coffee and a new puppy."

ReefBlue · 09-09-2010, 14:15

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Originally Posted by 1stindoor

One of my former team sergeants said, right after the birth of my son, "remember, your kid ain't as cute and precocious as YOU think he is."

My mom was a realist. She said to me a couple years ago--when you were born, you were the most important thing that ever happened to me . . . and to no one else.

I just wish more parents would realize that.