House Dems Offer Legal Status to Undocumented in Immigration Bill

**Team Sergeant** · 12-15-2009, 17:06

I'm just about to march on Washington, but this time no signs.

I've just about had it with "giving" America away.

Let's say we fight for it again.

20-30 million illegal criminals (or "illegal democrats") are about to receive "EVERYTHING" for free and you're footing the bill.

TS

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...est=latestnews

House Dems Offer Legal Status to "Undocumented" (crimminals) in Immigration Bill

Lawmakers pushing for immigration reform say job losses and a sluggish economy should not deter legislation legalizing illegal immigrants.
Hispanic, black, Asian and other House lawmakers backing immigration overhaul called Tuesday for legalizing illegal immigrants in the U.S., despite a weakened economy and joblessness.

The coalition of lawmakers said Tuesday immigration reform can protect American workers as well as bring into the mainstream economy productive immigrant workers who have lived in the shadows because of their illegal status.

"For those who say that given the state of our economy, given the unemployment rate, this is not the time, I would say to you there is no wrong or right time. There is a moral obligation," said Rep. Lydia Velazquez, D-N.Y., chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., who has become a leader of a multiethnic coalition of immigration reform backers, said immigration reform opponents "will use it as a wedge issue and will blame everything from unemployment to rising health care costs on immigrants."

"The immigrant blame game is constant," Gutierrez told a packed Capitol Hill news conference.

Immigration reform also means tougher penalties for employers who hire illegal workers, rules requiring foreign investors given U.S. visas to create jobs in this country, restrictions on hiring of foreign workers, he said.

Although there has been a report of a better-than-expected increase in production in the U.S. economy, experts say it remains weak and recovery continues to be slow.

That has led some to suggest that early next year -- as some are expecting -- is not the time to bring up immigration reform and certainly not to legalize illegal immigrants.

"Illegal immigrants currently occupy 8 million jobs. Those stolen jobs rightfully belong to citizens and legal immigrants. We could cut the unemployment rate in half simply by enforcing immigration laws!" said Texas Rep. Lamar Smith, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee.

An immigration reform bill proposed by Gutierrez seeks to legalize undocumented immigrants by requiring them to register with the federal government, pay a $500 fine for each adult, learn English, pass background checks and meet other requirements. They then are eligible for a six-year visa and when that is done a green card.

It contains numerous other proposals.

The bill was unveiled Tuesday, but lawmakers acknowledged the Senate will vote first. There is some skepticism whether Democrats will be willing to take up immigration reform early next year so soon after a tough health care debate and with 2010 elections gearing up.

"What we are doing is getting ready so when they are done with their work, we can quickly act," Gutierrez said.

**The Reaper** · 12-15-2009, 18:01

Just like the elected scumbags to try and slip this by under the radar.

Every sponsor of this bill needs to be turned out next Nov.

TR

Paslode · 12-15-2009, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I'm just about to march on Washington, but this time no signs.

I've just about had it with "giving" America away.

Let's say we fight for it again.

20-30 million illegal criminals (or "illegal democrats") are about to receive "EVERYTHING" for free and you're footing the bill.

TS

Your far from alone in those thoughts....

Paslode · 12-15-2009, 18:13

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http://action.seiu.org/page/s/onourway

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Dear Members of Congress:

On November 13th, the Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano reaffirmed President Obama's commitment to achieving comprehensive immigration reform.

Sec. Napolitano said:

"The President is committed to this issue because the need for immigration reform is so clear. This administration does not shy away from taking on the big challenges of the 21st century, challenges that have been ignored too long and hurt our families and businesses. When Congress is ready to act, we'll be ready to support them."

It's time to get this done. We're calling on Washington to provide the leadership needed to find an immediate solution to this challenge.

Please represent your constituents and work with President Obama to pass comprehensive immigration reform.

http://www.seiu.org/2009/12/seiu-statement-on-introduction-of-the-comprehensive-immigration-reform---american-security-and-prosp.php[/URL]

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SEIU Statement on Introduction of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform - American Security and Prosperity Act (CIR-A.S.A.P)
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Published December 15, 2009 10:59 AM

Ali Jost, ali.jost@seiu.org, (202) 730-7159

"Today We Are One Step Closer to Passing the Smart Immigration Reform that American Workers Need"

WASHINGTON DC--Today, Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) joined Representatives of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, the Congressional Asian and Pacific Americans Caucus, the Congressional Black Caucus, and the Congressional Progressive Caucus to introduce the "Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security Act and Prosperity" (CIR A.S.A.P.) in the U.S. House of Representatives. In response to the bill's introduction, Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Executive Vice President Eliseo Medina issued the following statement:

"Thanks to the direction of Rep. Gutierrez and a diverse group of Congressional leaders, today we are one step closer to passing the smart immigration reform that American workers need. After years of delay, broken promises and political logjams, the urgency is greater than ever to get immigration reform done right; to get it done quickly; and to make sure it works for America.

"Every day Congress delays, today's dysfunctional system further drives down wages, costs taxpayers, devastates communities, and further undermines the rule of law. Until Congress passes comprehensive reforms, workers will continue to be pitted against each other--denied the opportunity to unite their strength and demand the labor and civil rights protections we need to lift our economy and raise living standards for everyone. This is unacceptable.

"The American public knows that short-sighted enforcement tactics won't begin to solve the problem at hand. The only way to ensure that every job in this country is filled by a legal permanent resident is to get undocumented immigrants out of the underground economy, into the system and under the rule of law. Done right, comprehensive immigration reform will raise living standards for all workers, strengthens our economy, and restores the rule of law for the long term. Now is the time to get it done right.

"Though I have not yet had time to study all of the details, it appears that Representatives Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) has crafted a sensible and realistic solution to our long-festering immigration problems, one that promises to restore order, end worker exploitation, and create a fair, workable immigration system. Rep. Gutierrez is committed to solving this problem, and has devoted countless hours to the issue, listening to immigrants, business, labor, even those who oppose immigration reform, and it shows in this bill. It would be a great day for America's workers if many of the ideas in this bill were to become law.

"SEIU congratulates Representative Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) for stepping up to the plate to launch the first comprehensive immigration legislation of the year. As Congress starts a new debate - for the good of our economy and our nation - let's hope we can finally hit a home run."
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With 2.2 million members in Canada, the United States and Puerto Rico, SEIU is the fastest-growing union in the Americas and the largest union of immigrants. Focused on uniting workers in healthcare, public services and property services, SEIU members are winning better wages, healthcare and more secure jobs for our communities, while uniting their strength with their counterparts around the world to help ensure that workers--not just corporations and CEOs--benefit from today's global economy.

Defender968 · 12-15-2009, 18:45

What would be the illegal’s motivation to become a citizen at this point? I mean seriously, they can already vote, ACORN has seen to that, they have free health care via our ER's, and as they're illegal there is no credit score to bring down for the unpaid bills, they have jobs and don't currently pay taxes, they operate their vehicles (often with no insurance) and as many don't have US DLs they don't get penalized for not having insurance, their kids get free education paid for by the working US citizens? If they become citizens they'll have to pay taxes, get a license, pay for health care, have insurance etc etc etc, so someone please remind me again why they would want to become documented immigrants or citizens?

But sure give em all citizenship, why not, clearly they respect our laws, speak the language, fit into our culture and don't demand we honor theirs, and aren't a drain on society at all.......oh wait a second......never mind....not sure what I was thinking there.

Ret10Echo · 12-15-2009, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Defender968

What would be the illegal’s motivation to become a citizen at this point? I mean seriously, they can already vote, ACORN has seen to that, they have free health care via our ER's, and as they're illegal there is no credit score to bring down for the unpaid bills, they have jobs and don't currently pay taxes, they operate their vehicles (often with no insurance) and as many don't have US DLs they don't get penalized for not having insurance, their kids get free education paid for by the working US citizens? If they become citizens they'll have to pay taxes, get a license, pay for health care, have insurance etc etc etc, so someone please remind me again why they would want to become documented immigrants or citizens?

But sure give em all citizenship, why not, clearly they respect our laws, speak the language, fit into our culture and don't demand we honor theirs, and aren't a drain on society at all.......oh wait a second......never mind....not sure what I was thinking there.

No, no, no....it's gotta be PINK

Defender968 · 12-15-2009, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

No, no, no....it's gotta be PINK

My apologies I did intend for sarcasm but now I realize I put it in the wrong color, been up too long, time for a little shut eye.

Ret10Echo · 12-15-2009, 19:17

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

Just like the elected scumbags to try and slip this by under the radar.

Every sponsor of this bill needs to be turned out next Nov.

TR

When will they learn, Tancredo introduced it in 2007....well he is currently employed elsewhere

H.R.4192
Title: To reform immigration to serve the national interest.
Sponsor: Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] (introduced 11/15/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 2/25/2008 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law.

Link on Federal Register site (By way of L.O.C. Thomas)

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...4192ih.txt.pdf

Current push by the assorted caucuses. I have not seen the Bill text on Thomas as of yet.

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Comprehensive Immigration Reform to be Introduced December 15
December 11, 2009

Rebecca Dreilinger (202) 225-8203

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE (Washington D.C.) On Tuesday, December 15, Congressman Luis V. Gutierrez (D-IL) will introduce new legislation, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security and Prosperity Act of 2009 (CIR ASAP), to the U.S. House of Representatives. Gutierrez will be joined by members of many different faiths and backgrounds, including the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Black Caucus, Asian Pacific American Caucus and Progressive Caucus.

Who:
Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez (IL-4), Chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Immigration Task Force

Rep. Nydia M. Velázquez (NY-12), Chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus

Rep. Yvette D. Clarke (NY-11), Whip of the Congressional Black Caucus

Rep. Mike Honda (CA-15), Chair of Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus

Rep. Silvestre Reyes (TX-16), Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA-6), Co-Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus

Rep. Joe Baca (CA-43)

Rep. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)

Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)

Rep. Judy Chu (CA-32)

Rep. Joseph Crowley (NY-7)

Rep. Sam Farr (CA-17)

Rep. Charlie Gonzalez (TX-20)

Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)

Rep. Ruben Hinojosa (TX-15)

Rep. Grace Napolitano (CA-38)

Rep. Solomon P. Ortiz (TX-27)

Rep. Pedro R. Pierluisi (PR-At large)

Rep. Jared Polis (CO-2)

Rep. Jan Schakowsky (IL-9)

Rep. Jose E. Serrano (NY-16)

Rep. Anthony Weiner (NY-9)

Other Members of Congress

Ret10Echo · 12-15-2009, 19:19

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Originally Posted by Defender968

My apologies I did intend for sarcasm but now I realize I put it in the wrong color, been up too long, time for a little shut eye.

I jest......

BUT

Perhaps there should be an official color for a RANT, not to be confused with sarcasm?

ACE844 · 12-15-2009, 22:11

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Rep. Grace Napolitano (CA-38)

I wonder if she's a relative of our Dept. of Homeboy Security Secretary Janet Napolitano? Wouldn't that be par for the course?

12-15-2009, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Defender968

What would be the illegal’s motivation to become a citizen at this point? I mean seriously, they can already vote, ACORN has seen to that, they have free health care via our ER's, and as they're illegal there is no credit score to bring down for the unpaid bills, they have jobs and don't currently pay taxes, they operate their vehicles (often with no insurance) and as many don't have US DLs they don't get penalized for not having insurance, their kids get free education paid for by the working US citizens? If they become citizens they'll have to pay taxes, get a license, pay for health care, have insurance etc etc etc, so someone please remind me again why they would want to become documented immigrants or citizens?

But sure give em all citizenship, why not, clearly they respect our laws, speak the language, fit into our culture and don't demand we honor theirs, and aren't a drain on society at all.......oh wait a second......never mind....not sure what I was thinking there.

Why can't we play by their rules? Let's just move in.

Find 1 Million volunteers from 50 states and relocate. It would be tough for WY, ID, MT, UT, CO, NV, NM, AZ. Every volunteer (immigrant), ages 25 - 35, male, prior service. Stay out of Mexico's major urban cities, they represent 70% of the nations population.

orion5 · 12-16-2009, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Paslode

http://www.seiu.org/2009/12/seiu-statement-on-introduction-of-the-comprehensive-immigration-reform---american-security-and-prosp.php[/URL]

Dear Members of Congress:

On November 13th, the Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano reaffirmed President Obama's commitment to achieving comprehensive immigration reform.

Sec. Napolitano said:

"The President is committed to this issue because the need for immigration reform is so clear. This administration does not shy away from taking on the big challenges of the 21st century, challenges that have been ignored too long and hurt our families and businesses. When Congress is ready to act, we'll be ready to support them."

No? This administration is not shying away? Giving in to appease people who are illegal and should have no rights and no voice at the table IS called shying away from big challenges.

I find most Texans I know are not unsympathetic to the plight of the good folks of Mexico. But once the borders of the USA were established, every single one of them that have crossed those borders illegally KNEW they were committing a crime. Why is that ok? We need to take emotions out of this and do what is right.

orion5 · 12-16-2009, 00:18

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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Current push by the assorted caucuses. I have not seen the Bill text on Thomas as of yet.

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Comprehensive Immigration Reform to be Introduced December 15
December 11, 2009

Rebecca Dreilinger (202) 225-8203

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE (Washington D.C.) On Tuesday, December 15, Congressman Luis V. Gutierrez (D-IL) will introduce new legislation, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security and Prosperity Act of 2009 (CIR ASAP), to the U.S. House of Representatives. Gutierrez will be joined by members of many different faiths and backgrounds, including the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Black Caucus, Asian Pacific American Caucus and Progressive Caucus.

In the state of Texas, many Asian and Black folk have lost jobs, especially in the trades, to illegal aliens from Mexico. For the Asian and Black caucuses to have joined up with the Hispanics on this is startling. Would love to hear the back room discussion... what have the Asians and Blacks been promised in return for their support?

It's like I am swimming for shore and a storm has set in and I'm starting to tire. Suddenly a Mexican girl swims up and climbs on my back. She may be sweet and pretty and nice, but is it right for her to drown both of us?

This is the side of America I don't understand... those who want everyone to get along and be happy, even if we all drown.

America was not only built on good will, but on strong decision making. Not everyone can win.

HisDisciple · 12-16-2009, 01:26

Seems like people these days are handing out U.S. Rights to everybody. Especially criminals. Even if there are millions of illegals in the U.S. It somehow becomes "Less illegal."

I guess those SEALs who did their duty deserve to feel the wrath of the public appeasement.

Just like Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean felt the wrath. Chamberlain anyone? Heck, we don't kneed the Bill of Rights. We got the U.N Declaration. Congress lol. We got a public option.

I agree with Team Sergeant and The Reaper. We do need to fight in the ballot boxes. And boot every one out of office that allows illegals to become legal and gives our rights away like no one's every shed a drop of blood for them and unfortunetly still does.

Paslode · 12-16-2009, 07:05

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Originally Posted by orion5

This is the side of America I don't understand... those who want everyone to get along and be happy, even if we all drown.

IMO - It is not about all of us getting along, that is the ruse. It is self interest, it is about getting what 'I' need and whats in it for 'Me'. It is about getting a big house, a 6 figure salary and 2 SUV's in the driveway.