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Old 06-30-2004, 15:59   #1
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2000 Armor Vests to Iraqi Police

Mosul area policemen receive 2,000 body armor vests



MOSUL, Iraq (Army News Service, June 29, 2004) – Iraqi police from the Mosul area received 2,000 vests with protective plates June 25.

The vests were given to them by Coalition forces as part of a contract with the Office of Security Cooperation to ensure the safety of Iraqi security forces while they are protecting the local citizens.

There are about 8,870 police working in the Mosul area. Previously, Coalition forces donated almost 700 vests to the Mosul police. The 2,000 additional vests are part of an ongoing plan to provide the area security forces with the protection they need to do their jobs safely.

The armor arrived in Mosul a few days ago. It was given to the Iraqi police as soon as possible to provide protection in the event of another outbreak of violence in the days leading up to the transfer of sovereignty on June 30.

“This equipment will have a great psychological impact for the police,” said Lt. Col. Hillary Baxter, the Task Force Olympia provost marshall. “The police see Coalition forces out with body armor and kevlars on. We want them to also have the proper equipment to do their jobs safely.”

The Mosul area police are working and training to improve the security and safety of northern Iraq. According to Baxter, their performance has continuously improved over time. The police have faced numerous challenges in maintaining security in Mosul, most recently the attacks on June 24 that killed more than 70 innocent Iraqi civilians and wounded 240. Approximately 30 of the dead were Iraqi police officers who were killed in action that day.

“We have had to work hard to rebuild the police force in Ninevah,” said Maj. Abd Al Hameed Thaier, Mosul police chief of staff. “I think our policemen have become an example for all the police in Iraq.”
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Old 06-30-2004, 16:17   #2
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Two to chest...one to the head.

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Old 07-01-2004, 07:07   #3
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I sure do feel safer now living in Mosul
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Old 07-01-2004, 07:23   #4
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I thought the purpose of OIF (Iraqi FREEDOM) was to free Iraq and allow them to protect themselves. It seems that this is a good action and they may even need more. As an instructor or advisor you can get nowhere by ridiculing youe students.

Reverse roles and see how you would react if your "advisors" constantly ridiculed and insulted you. Would you support him in the end. I wouldn't.

The old adage of having to crawl before walking is so true. If there is any single ingredient most important to sucess it is mutual respect. I have seen 100% loyal RTs (some vietnamese) and I have seen some go AWOL. Almost everytime, results could be traced right back to the attitudes of the US leaders.
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Old 07-01-2004, 08:11   #5
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Question Do you know the history of the Iraqi Police?

Or the Iraqi Civilian Defense Corps (ICDC)?
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Re: Do you know the history of the Iraqi Police?

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Or the Iraqi Civilian Defense Corps (ICDC)?
Years ago similar remarks were made about the Latin American Forces who are now credible. They didn't get that way by being constantly ridiculed and insulted by their SF counterparts.

I also know the history of the seventh US Cavalry who were banned from stateside duty until recently. The 4th ID didn't have the best of reputations in RVN.

I am merely saying the support and respect will go a lot further than ridicule. The same c omments were made of the South Vietmese army but look how the NVA performed. I couldn't have been genetic -- they were of the same stock. Be it here or abroad, civilian or military, performance and morale are direct indicators of leadership.

Your comment goes right back to what the media chooses to report. I understand that the the ICDG have done credible work is some areas and are in control of their cities.
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Old 07-01-2004, 10:40   #7
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As long as there is American leadership the IP's or ICDC will do their jobs to a certain degree. It is a known fact that over 50% of the IP or ICDC "ran away" when time to clamp down on Fullujah came.

It is also known, that they very rarely if at all respond to attacks on military personnel.

Culture plays a major role in stabilizing Iraq!
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Taking away the excuses.

I am with QRQ on this one. Well said.
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:24   #9
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Lightbulb Loaded question?

Why do we have SF Groups who specialize in a certain geographical area?
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Re: Loaded question?

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Why do we have SF Groups who specialize in a certain geographical area?
Mostly to keep those 10th Group guys out of Latin America and Asia.
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Re: Re: Loaded question?

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Mostly to keep those 10th Group guys out of Latin America and Asia.
HEY THERE..... its not fourth down yet. NO PUNTING!!!

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Re: Re: Loaded question?

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Mostly to keep those 10th Group guys out of Latin America and Asia.
Because the sudden influx of extremely talented, professional (not to mention incredibly handsome) soldiers would create havoc not only within the units to be trained, but the local populace in general.
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Another loaded question?

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HEY THERE..... its not fourth down yet. NO PUNTING!!!

NOW PLAY BALL! LOL

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