MoveOn a subversive group?

[Richard]

For some reason, this group and their constant and insidious machinations to manipulate the legislative process by their slick e-marketing to the GenYers and O-bee adherants makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

Richard's $.02

Dear MoveOn member,

I have an announcement. After four exciting years in Washington, I'm hitting the campaign trail again! Only this time, I'm campaigning to help President Obama win health care for all.

During the election, President Obama proposed a health care plan that would give every American the freedom to choose between keeping their private insurance—if they have any—and choosing a universally available public health insurance option like Medicare.

But for-profit insurance companies and HMOs are already working hard to strip this public health insurance option from any upcoming health care bill. They don't want us to have a choice, and they'll stop at nothing to kill real reform. Trouble is, some in Congress are siding with the insurance companies—and against what's best for the rest of us.

Today, we draw a line in the sand. A public health insurance option is the only way to guarantee health care for all Americans. And to show that we mean business, we all need to tell Congress we won't settle for less.

If 250,000 of you sign this petition, I will personally deliver it to Congress. Clicking here will add your name:

http://pol.moveon.org/standwithdrdea...62-xGwhYix&t=1

Here's our message to Congress: "Give America a choice. We support health care reform that allows individual Americans to choose either a universally available public health care option like Medicare or for-profit private insurance. A public option is the only way to guarantee health care for all Americans and its inclusion is non-negotiable. Any legislation without the choice of a public option is only insurance reform and not the health care reform America needs."

The fight is heating up over whether or not to include the public health insurance option. This is going to be the biggest fight in the debate over health care reform. It would take the power away from the private insurance companies that have driven up costs and denied coverage for years—and they're dead set against it.

But I've seen firsthand what people power can accomplish. And I know I can count on MoveOn members to help lead the charge.

Now is our moment to stand up. Together, we can generate broad-based support for a public health insurance option. We will need to canvass our neighborhoods, call our elected leaders, and arrange meetings with members of Congress in the coming months.

Our goal today is to show Congress that we are many and ready to fight. Can you click here to stand with me?

http://pol.moveon.org/standwithdrdea...62-xGwhYix&t=2
After you add your name, spread the word to your friends, family, and co-workers. Send a personal email and include a link to the website, update your Facebook status to tell people about the campaign, write a blog post about why you support this campaign—we need all hands on deck to win this fight.

Thank you for all you do.

Gov. Howard Dean, M.D.

[afchic]

He couldn't keep his job as DNC chairman, so now he is schlepping for MoveOn. Why does that not surprise me????

[dividebyzero]

Originally Posted by afchic

He couldn't keep his job as DNC chairman, so now he is schlepping for MoveOn. Why does that not surprise me????

Agreed. Speaking as a Democrat, I have to say that I've never been a fan of MoveOn.org, mostly on account of their self-referential and aggrandizing style (remember when they won the Iraq War? )

I don't see MoveOn as a force that drives political debate, but as a group that aims to project a greater deal of relevancy than they actually possess. I would attribute whatever success they may have to their mastery of using the internet to draw in funding, not their ability to chart agendas.

[Dad]

NO ONE with an IQ larger than their hat size pays attention to Move On. They are the left equivalent to Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter

[ZonieDiver]

Originally Posted by Dad

NO ONE with an IQ larger than their hat size pays attention to Move On. They are the left equivalent to Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter

Unfortunately, these days there are a awful lot of people with an IQ no larger than there hat size, it seems.

[dennisw]

dividebyzero said

I would attribute whatever success they may have to their mastery of using the internet to draw in funding, not their ability to chart agendas.

I would not dispute that moveon.org draws funding from their internet activity, but I would think it would be neglectful to disregard the funding they have received from folks like George Soros. I think the notion that they, like Obama received majority of their funding from small donations from a myriad of Americans and are not in fact connected to very influential and wealthy liberals to be nothing but hype.

Dad said

NO ONE with an IQ larger than their hat size pays attention to Move On. They are the left equivalent to Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter

I cannot agree with your statement. To say Anne Coulter is the right's equivalent of MoveOn.org seems out of kilter and sounds similar to the popular opinion proprogated by the mainstream media. If you have read any of her books and believe this, fair enough. However, I have read both Guilty and Treason and found a ton of interesting information in them. Especially about the information contained in the files which have been released in the last few years regarding the Rosenbergs, etc. She is a bit theactrical and sarcastic which can turn some off. However, she does have some substantive things to say, which is something I do not believe you can attribute to MoveOn.org.

[redleg99]

I would think it would be neglectful to disregard the funding they have received from folks like George Soros. I think the notion that they, like Obama received majority of their funding from small donations from a myriad of Americans and are not in fact connected to very influential and wealthy liberals to be nothing but hype.

I believe that was correct in 2004, but apparently that isn’t the case anymore.

Take a look here:
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...457#post253457

Note that I said “apparently.”
They may have simply gotten better at hiding donations from big donors like Soros.