Biden garbles Depression history

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[Richard]

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric.

Yep. I was watching that when it happened. I yelled at the TV set and my wife came into the family room and wanted to know what the matter was. I told her what JB had said and why it was hooey, that FDR wasn't president until nearly 3 years after the Crash of '29 and gave his "fireside chats" over the radio because nobody had TVs, and that nobody would probably pay any attention to it because JB is neither black nor female, because Katie Couric (or any of the network talking heads) is too dumb to call him on it, and because most Americans probably have no idea what happened circa the Crash of '29. She said that I should watch another station--she likes Charles Gibson but I can't take him so I watch CBS to hear Bob Schieffer.

Richard

[Box]

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

...the news cast was carried in all 57 states and the bloggers heaped praise upon the presidents bold words.



The truth is... in a few months the Large Hadron Collider" will produce technology that is going to be used to send a few of Obamas commando-crats back into history. They will deliver television to the depression, they will help Al Gore invent the internet and they will keep the Bosnian sniper from getting Hilary. Unfortunately they inadvertently garbled part of Kennedy's famous speech...

"ask not what your country can do for you, but how you can show your patriotism by paying taxes"


This election is more fun than a barrel of monkeys!

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by Richard

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric.

Yep. I was watching that when it happened. I yelled at the TV set and my wife came into the family room and wanted to know what the matter was. I told her what JB had said and why it was hooey, that FDR wasn't president until nearly 3 years after the Crash of '29 and gave his "fireside chats" over the radio because nobody had TVs, and that nobody would probably pay any attention to it because JB is neither black nor female, because Katie Couric (or any of the network talking heads) is too dumb to call him on it, and because most Americans probably have no idea what happened circa the Crash of '29. She said that I should watch another station--she likes Charles Gibson but I can't take him so I watch CBS to hear Bob Schieffer.

Richard

Richard,

I was just waiting for your comments on this one because I knew it wouldn't get past you.

GB TFS

[Slantwire]

Originally Posted by Richard

FDR wasn't president until nearly 3 years after the Crash of '29 and gave his "fireside chats" over the radio because nobody had TVs

To steal and paraphrase a comment: It's a damn shame Al Gore couldn't have invented TV a few years earlier.

[Red Flag 1]

I often wonder if Joe Biden can cook eggs that are not scrambled?

As a public orator, he does scramble things up " a bit ".

Like Al Gore, Biden reconstructs events to fit his topic, and make him look smart . See Reagan quote below.


RF 1

[Box]

Its just so damn annoying when the cycle flows like this... Hillary talks about snipers, Gore invents the internet, Obama visits 57 states and Biden talks about TV newscasts during the depression; Its presented by the apostles in the news media as a simple gaffe, lighten up republicans they mis-spoke. Is it really that hard for normal people to see through the curtain? Are there any normal people left?

John Kerry is a gazillionaire because of hard work and the fact that his wife sells ketchup. McCain on the other hand steals food from the mouths of babies and pushes old ladies down stairs to get his wealth.

George Bush says "nucular" instead of "nuclear" and he's instantly transformed into an idiot thats to dangerous to man the oval office.


Palin openly states how she stands on an issue and shes portrayed as a bible thumping wacko. Yet Obama can say his views on abortion are above his pay grade. What gives? This idiot votes "present" more often than not and yet he is the agent of change?
Is the population of this fine country really that gullible?

God save us all.

[Defender968]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Palin openly states how she stands on an issue and shes portrayed as a bible thumping wacko. Yet Obama can say his views on abortion are above his pay grade. What gives? This idiot votes "present" more often than not and yet he is the agent of change?
Is the population of this fine country really that gullible?

God save us all.

Sadly yes the general population of this great nation are that gullible, they simply have not had to think critically for a while now, they are used to instant pudding, fast food, and reality TV, they've not been paying attention to the world they've been too busy watching American Idol. They all just want instant gratification and easy answers rather than doing the hard work to make themselves and our nation better. It's why they call 911 when the air conditioner breaks, or when their neighbors’ dog is barking, or when they don't have a ride to the store. It truly saddens me that this country has gone from the greatest generation of hard workers who dug deep and survived true calamity to people who expect to be bailed out of any trouble even when they knew it was there.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

John Kerry is a gazillionaire because of hard work and the fact that his wife sells ketchup.

Minor correction.

She doesn't sell anything.

She previously married the heir to the Heinz fortune , a Senator as well, who died while married to her. Essentially, she hit the lottery before he could kick the bitch to the curb.

Now she is one of the wealthiest women in the world.

TR

[jw74]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Its just so damn annoying when the cycle flows like this... Hillary talks about snipers, Gore invents the internet, Obama visits 57 states and Biden talks about TV newscasts during the depression; Its presented by the apostles in the news media as a simple gaffe, lighten up republicans they mis-spoke. Is it really that hard for normal people to see through the curtain? Are there any normal people left? .

I think this crap would stop if someone in the media or on the opposition would stand up and call this stuff LYING instead of winking and calling it "misspeaking".

[jamber97]

Originally Posted by Pinhead

To steal and paraphrase a comment: It's a damn shame Al Gore couldn't have invented TV a few years earlier.

gaffe also gaff (gf)
n.
1. A clumsy social error; a faux pas: "The excursion had in his eyes been a monstrous gaffe, a breach of sensibility and good taste" Mary McCarthy.
2. A blatant mistake or misjudgment.



Biden is a artful master of the gaffe. A gaffe machine I might say. He knows this and still speaks with out thinking it thru. I'm starting to think he knows something that we don't. That its all some kind of mind game he's playing. He can't possibly be as goofy as he's coming across, he has to know that everything coming out of their mouths is being fact checked.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by jamber97

gaffe also gaff (gf)
n.
1. A clumsy social error; a faux pas: "The excursion had in his eyes been a monstrous gaffe, a breach of sensibility and good taste" Mary McCarthy.
2. A blatant mistake or misjudgment.

Biden is a artful master of the gaffe. A gaffe machine I might say. He knows this and still speaks with out thinking it thru. I'm starting to think he knows something that we don't. That its all some kind of mind game he's playing. He can't possibly be as goofy as he's coming across, he has to know that everything coming out of their mouths is being fact checked.

Long after he left this earth, scholars discovered that as president, Dwight Eisenhower deliberately cultivated the widely-held impression that he was a bumbling goof ball. Now, as more of his personal and presidential papers become available, it is turning out that President Reagan was a much more thoughtful person than even his admirers realized at the time.

I don't know if such will prove the case with Senator Biden. I've been watching Senator Biden off and on since the Iran-contra hearings. My two cents are that he knows he's a fairly intelligent guy but he's not as smart as he thinks and he doesn't quite realize that not everyone enjoys the sound of his voice as much as he does.

I also think he's a hold-over from a time when political discourse wasn't the "gotcha" game that it would become during the presidency of Bush the Elder and the confirmation hearings for Robert Bork, John Tower, and Clarence Thomas.

In the good old days, a member of the legislative branch could be more comfortable with rules allowing for one to correct one's statements for the record after the fact and to submit into record written statements as if they were read aloud before a committee. Also, members of Congress would lambaste each other during the day but leave the theatrics at the door during the evening when they'd treat each other as the respected friends they were. (This insight is from Tip O'Neal's memoirs.)

Some may remember the briefings President Bush gave during DESERT STORM. He would riff, ruminate, think aloud, and then just catch himself before divulging what Prime Minister Thatcher had told him moments ago on the phone. In today's environment, such candor would have the chattering classes talking about everything but what the president had actually said.

Now, thanks to the wizards at CNN, the continuous news cycle, and the super-charged ideological rhetoric of today, any verbal mis-step becomes the story.

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Its just so damn annoying when the cycle flows like this... Hillary talks about snipers, Gore invents the internet, Obama visits 57 states and Biden talks about TV newscasts during the depression; Its presented by the apostles in the news media as a simple gaffe, lighten up republicans they mis-spoke. Is it really that hard for normal people to see through the curtain? Are there any normal people left?

George Bush says "nucular" instead of "nuclear" and he's instantly transformed into an idiot thats to dangerous to man the oval office.

Palin openly states how she stands on an issue and shes portrayed as a bible thumping wacko. Yet Obama can say his views on abortion are above his pay grade. What gives? This idiot votes "present" more often than not and yet he is the agent of change?
Is the population of this fine country really that gullible?

I think that many people on the Left have foxed themselves into believing that they are smarter than those who disagree with them. If you disagree with the Left, it is because you've been 'deluded', 'brainwashed', 'hypnotized', 'lost', a 'sell out', an 'Uncle Tom', or you're simply corrupt. In the twenty years since I left the Democratic party and joined the GOP, I can say that I've had more honest, open, and respectful discussions with fellow Republicans over very divisive issues than I've had with my friends who are left of center on topics we share a general framework of agreement. At times, it seems they would rather be right than understand an issue from a different perspective or to get an issue resolved.

[Box]

His oddball oratory skills are not new either... Joe doesn't just garble history, he makes a chicken noodle sandwich every time he speaks:

-He called Obama "articulate and bright and clean" and said that in his home state, "You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."
-During his first run for president, in 1987, Biden told a would-be voter, "I have a much higher IQ than you do" and cited academic accomplishments that turned out to be false.
-"I exaggerate when I'm angry," he later explained to The New York Times, though last year he said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that he's kicked that tendency.
-A few months later, however, Biden claimed during a Democratic presidential debate that he'd been "shot at" during a trip to the Green Zone in Baghdad. Days later, he tried to walk back the claim.
Biden told The Hill newspaper that what he should have said was "I was near where a shot landed." ...
-A handful of times on Tuesday, he assured supporters that he was being "sincere" and was not engaging in hyperbole, and also prefaced many remarks by saying "literally."

It's confusing how people of Bidens ilk can be so willing to fabricate and spread outright lies (or as they would prefer "mis-spoken war accounts") about the big gunfights they have been through.
(The words poser and liar come to mind)
Then of course there is the ole "rifleman joe" comment a few days ago that actually threatens violence on B. Hussien Obama should BHO attempt to take Bidens guns away:

In an out-of-nowhere attempt to re-assure a southwestern Virginia labor crowd about gun owners' rights, Biden -- who regularly scores "F" ratings from the National Rifle Association -- warned Obama that if "he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem."
"I guarantee you Barack Obama ain't taking my shotguns, so don't buy that malarkey," Biden said Saturday at the United Mine Workers of America's annual fish fry in Castlewood, Virginia. "Don't buy that malarkey. They're going to start peddling that to you."
Biden told the crowd that he himself is a gun owner. "I got two," Biden said, "if he tries to fool with my Beretta, he's got a problem. I like that little over and under, you know? I'm not bad with it. So give me a break. Give me a break."

His gun toting 'good ole boy rant lights a patriotic spark in my heart that makes me want to pay a few more tax dollars this month!
The truth is, ole' Joe is part right... Obama would never disarm a fellow hypocrite. Him and his ilk are only after guns belonging to citizens.
Can you imagine the media cyclone if Sarah Palin made such a statement?

The emperor is not wearing any clothes folks and B. Hussien Obama is not the messiah he is being portrayed as.
...just my two cents

[USANick7]

Originally Posted by jamber97

gaffe also gaff (gf)
n.
1. A clumsy social error; a faux pas: "The excursion had in his eyes been a monstrous gaffe, a breach of sensibility and good taste" Mary McCarthy.
2. A blatant mistake or misjudgment.



Biden is a artful master of the gaffe. A gaffe machine I might say. He knows this and still speaks with out thinking it thru. I'm starting to think he knows something that we don't. That its all some kind of mind game he's playing. He can't possibly be as goofy as he's coming across, he has to know that everything coming out of their mouths is being fact checked.

The fact check on that one didn't take long. But I'm sure he got away with it concerning most of his supporters.

[afchic]

His gaffe today:

“Ladies and gentlemen, and I say to the national press here, the single biggest tax cut proposed in history for the middle class is being proposed by John McCain,” he said, rather than calling the plan a tax increase.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...5/1448945.aspx