09-18-2007, 19:37
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417
Just saw two weapons that beats the shit out of both the 417 and the 416.
More to follow. 
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09-18-2007, 20:04
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Now that's just wrong, making a post like that. 
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09-18-2007, 20:05
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Now that's just wrong, making a post like that. |
2X here too, now how am I going to get any sleep?
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09-18-2007, 20:28
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SCAR-L and SCAR-H?
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09-18-2007, 21:08
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This from a man that shoots a 107 on his hind feet ... he's crazy 
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09-19-2007, 13:22
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Now that SCAR has been brought to the table, never mind.
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09-19-2007, 13:29
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FN-FAL and M-14?
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09-19-2007, 19:32
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LWRC
They are about to bring out one heck of a 308 piston driven rifle that is actually quite accurate and seems to be more durable than most. We fired a pre-production model that was very nice. They noted a number of changes that would probably enhance the weapon and kill some of the problems with the SR and other similar models. Can't say what until they release it but htye go into production in about 30 days.
It is nice that the weapon has a shell deflector, and forward assist mechanism. We zeroed and grouped with and without the suppressor and heated the weapon to see zero shift and if the groups opened up. All worked well and out performed the SR by a long shot. Can not vouch that it will beat the 417 but since the 417 has only been produced in a battle rifle configuration then I would say it probably beat it's pants off as well. I was not particularly impressed with the suppressor but that is a difficult piece of machinery regardless of who makes it.
The 5.56 version probably will not go up for civie sale due to its make up but it is nice, accurate and lighter than the 416. 5.56 version we shot is not on the web site but the 308 civie version is.
Will let you guys know more later as we get more info on it.
Sorry for the tease but I actually forgot the name of the system when I posted last night and then brain cramped this morning and forgot to post the name again.
Sorry Kyobanim, that was just wrong.
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09-19-2007, 20:09
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Sorry Kyobanim, that was just wrong.
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That's OK, we'll be happy with pictures; cause you know how the saying goes . . .
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09-19-2007, 20:14
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Pulling the wings off the fly one at a time...
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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09-20-2007, 09:09
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Originally Posted by longrange1947
The 5.56 version probably will not go up for civie sale due to its make up but it is nice, accurate and lighter than the 416. 5.56 version we shot is not on the web site but the 308 civie version is.
Sorry for the tease but I actually forgot the name of the system when I posted last night and then brain cramped this morning and forgot to post the name again.
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I have looked for a quality long gun in a 7.62 configuration for a long time and I almost pulled the trigger on a SOCOM16 but held off. Not a true 5.56 fan.
Please share the manufacture with us.
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09-20-2007, 09:17
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OG, it was in the post title - Leitner-Wise.
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09-20-2007, 09:38
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OG, it was in the post title - Leitner-Wise.
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Leitner-Wise is now known as LWRC (Land Warfare Resources Corporation)
It's got entirely new management in addition to its new name. This isn't a matter of having new business cards printed for the new name...their entire approach and philospohy has changed as well.
In a nutshell this is the deal with the new management......
Paul Leitner-Wise (thus the original company name) fabricated Special Forces trials of his weapons, and created a bunch of BS. He was ousted from the company he founded by new investor/owners. The company continues on, ironically with a terrifically engineered AR15 series of rifles. (Contrary to a post above, 5.56 rifles are their bread and butter...not .308)
Their piston 5.56 rifles are reputedly outstanding....and considered by many experienced with them to be every bit as good as 416's and a fraction of the price...though still expensive compared to standard DI AR's.
Talon Arms distrubutes for LWRC and below is a photo of one of the LWRC 10.5" 5.56 uppers.
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09-20-2007, 09:41
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The 5.56 version probably will not go up for civie sale due to its make up....
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(Assuming you were actually reporting on a LWRC....)
They are not only going to be for civi sale...they already are. Both complete rifles as well as complete uppers.
Currently they have four different models of 5.56 rifles available.
Check out their web page.
http://www.lwrifles.com/
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09-20-2007, 12:48
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(Assuming you were actually reporting on a LWRC....)
They are not only going to be for civi sale...they already are. Both complete rifles as well as complete uppers.
Currently they have four different models of 5.56 rifles available.
Check out their web page.
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I would not call LR a liar.
He was likely reporting what he had been told by the rep.
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