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Old 11-25-2007, 21:15   #1
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Murtha's Mistake!!

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...4/384wfxcg.asp



Murtha's Mistake
Slandering the Marine Corps.
by Christian Lowe
11/25/2007 12:00:00 AM



ON MAY 17, 2006, outspoken Bush critic and erstwhile Iraq war opponent John Murtha (D-Pa.) shocked the world with a dramatic revelation.

At a news conference he'd convened to talk about "the situation in Iraq," the formerly pro-military lawmaker dropped a bomb on the Marine Corps when he revealed in his 24 minute presser that troops with Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment had mowed down innocent civilians in a previously unknown town in north western Iraq called Haditha.

In stark language he accused the Corps of a massive cover-up and made the case that the Marines ran amok in a war with no direction. More shockingly, and without any corroborating evidence, he called the Marines involved in the bloody ambush and ensuing firefight cold-blooded killers.

"We had an incident in Haditha where a Marine was killed by an IED. Time magazine reported it and it's kind of a puzzling report because they're investigating it right now. But let me tell you what the consequences of this have been. It's much worse than has been reported in Time magazine," Murtha said at the press conference. "There was no firefight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

Murtha was one of a reported handful of lawmakers briefed in confidence on the incident by then Marine Commandant Gen. Mike Hagee earlier that month.

"That's what the report is going to tell," Murtha added. "Now you can imagine the impact this is going to have on those troops for the rest of their lives and on the United States in our war, in our effort, trying to win the hearts and minds."

Not to mention the impact of Murtha's disclosure on the lives of those Marines and on U.S. foreign policy before any official findings or formal charges had been brought in the incident.

The accusation led to a firestorm of recriminations, prompting high-level investigations in Iraq, a Naval Criminal Investigative Service probe, and a trip to Capitol Hill by Hagee to brief more curious lawmakers caught off guard by the scandalous charge.

Rather than take Murtha's bait and reflexively admit guilt in the scandal, the Corps opted for a more deliberate approach by methodically investigating the incident, compiling both sides of the story--Iraqi and American--and finally arriving at criminal charges against eight key players in the incident.

For those of you who might need a refresher, here's the basic outline:

During a late night patrol in Haditha in November of 2005, a squad of Marines was ambushed by a roadside bomb that killed Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas. The Marines claimed they were then engaged by insurgents hiding in some houses adjacent to the bomb, so they stormed the buildings to clear them of enemy gunmen. When the dust settled, 24 Iraqis lay dead, including several women and children. An Iraq civil rights group, working with Time magazine, claimed the Marines overreacted and wantonly slaughtered the civilians.

From the outside, things didn't look good for the Corps.




But the subsequent investigation found the Marines acted within the rules of engagement--clearing the rooms "by fire" instead of waiting to be shot at when they entered. This is a controversial practice for sure--throwing a grenade in the room before you know who's in there can have tragic results, as this incident did. But it's important to recognize that Haditha was a perilous place in those days, and Marines had already learned the hard way in Fallujah that opening a door in a house from which you've received fire could mean an up close and personal encounter with the barrel of an AK-47. This time, they weren't taking any chances.

That's why over the last several months, a military court in California has dismissed charges against four of the seven Marines and one Navy corpsman charged in the incident. One officer, Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani who commanded 3/1, was ordered to trial for dereliction of duty for not reporting the incident and violation of a lawful order. Another officer, a 1st lieutenant who commanded the intelligence cell that responded to the scene after the shootout, has just begun his Article 32 hearing--the military equivalent of a grand jury investigation.

Two other officers have had their charges thrown out.

So far, one enlisted Marine and the corpsman involved in the incident have had their charges erased, and a third, squad leader Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, is still awaiting a decision on whether his case merits a trial--though an officer involved in the Article 32 hearings has suggested he face seven charges of negligent manslaughter, rather than 17 murder charges.

One enlisted man has been ordered to trial on two counts of involuntary manslaughter.

So has John Murtha, a decorated former Marine himself, apologized for a very public display of contempt for the then uncharged Marines? When confronted with the current state of affairs and asked at a Nov. 20 press conference whether he stood by his May 2006 claim that these Marines were cold-blooded killers, he refused to comment, first hiding behind the excuse that the case was still in the courts. When pressed that four of the accused had been exonerated already, he continued his silence.

Of course, that didn't stop him back in May 2006, just months before the congressional elections that flipped the House and Senate on an anti-war platform, from making accusations that proved untrue.

One has to wonder whether the Vietnam veteran will be held to account for his earlier rhetoric. Certainly, at the very least, he owes the innocent Marines he accused of cold-blooded murder an apology.

Christian Lowe is managing editor of Military.com and is a contributing writer to THE DAILY STANDARD.

I'd like to hear from his "Fellow Marines" about what his "Service" really entailed!! I'd wager that he never saw the "otherside of the wire"!!!

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Old 11-25-2007, 22:01   #2
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Martin,

I don't know what to say, except what ever Murtha stood for that was honorable is long gone. For a few pieces of gold he sold out.

I wish there was a way to strip him of his title as a US Marine. The only Marines he is in company with are brig rats. He violated one of major values in the Corps, to take care of your Marines. He violated even the basic aspect of Semper Fidelis.

I hope he gets sued big time, if that is possible, or find himself with the others like Daschle in the rubbish heap of time.

Thank you for the article.


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Old 11-25-2007, 22:28   #3
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A few Marines I've spoken with have absolutely no use for the man, and refuse to call him Brother...though they've called him other things. Convicting the Marines and the Corpsman in the media was so very wrong, to put it mildly. He disgusts me.
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Old 11-25-2007, 22:37   #4
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Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine, and Randy Cunningham was an ace, Murtha is an ass.
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Old 11-25-2007, 23:53   #5
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Murtha is an ass.
That's just the half of it!

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Old 07-18-2008, 13:23   #6
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BUMP - Update on Murtha’s future prospects

AD Army LtCol will run to defeat Murtha in PA
In remembering John Murtha and his verbal attacks on the US Marines at Haditha, it looks like the people of Johnstown, PA are working to unseat Mr. Murtha from congress.
Sounds like a plan

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Meet Lt. Colonel Bill Russell
The Russell campaign has been operating in recent weeks without the benefit of a “visible, active campaigner.” She continued, “Bill is currently on active duty with the Army. That means he can’t campaign, he can’t direct campaign activities and simply can’t be a candidate. Lt. Colonel Russell will resume campaigning on August 1st

http://russellbrigade.com/2008/07/gr...2%80%99s-12th/



Quotes from Murtha -----------
It's much worse than reported in Time magazine. There was no fire fight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood. And that's what the report is going to tell.
And now I understand the investigation shows that in fact there was no firefight, there was no explosion that killed the civilians in a bus. There was no bus. There was no shrapnel. There was only bullet holes inside the house where the Marines had gone in.
they actually went into the houses and killed women and children. And there was about twice as many as originally reported by Time.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/li...7-murtha01.htm
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Old 07-18-2008, 13:48   #7
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Meet Lt. Colonel Bill Russell

The Russell campaign has been operating in recent weeks without the benefit of a “visible, active campaigner.” She continued, “Bill is currently on active duty with the Army. That means he can’t campaign, he can’t direct campaign activities and simply can’t be a candidate. Lt. Colonel Russell will resume campaigning on August 1st

http://russellbrigade.com/2008/07/gr...2%80%99s-12th/
Thanks for the link, I sent Lt Col Russell a contribution and will forward the link to friends..

Murtha has to go...
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Old 07-18-2008, 14:01   #8
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Murtha had what my father used to say "A tendency to not know when to speak and when he did he did not know when to shut up"

Pelosi counted on Murtha being her "Military voice" regarding all things Iraq. As usual, she does not know who to befriend, and who to steer clear of. 14% approval rating mean anything Nancy ???
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:31   #9
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Marine LtCol Chessani Wins Another Round!!

I know this is an old thread but I thought you all would like to know the update.
I received this update on LtCol Chessani from the Thomas More Law Center:


Marine LtCol Chessani Wins Another Round

Wednesday, April 29, 2009

ANN ARBOR, MI – Yesterday evening, the Navy-Marine Corps Court of Criminal Appeals (NMCCA), sitting in Washington DC, denied without comment the government’s motion for Reconsideration. Government prosecutors had asked that the unanimous ruling in favor of LtCol Jeffery Chessani, USMC, by a 3-judge NMCCA panel be reconsidered by all 9 judges. A majority of the 9 judges would have had to agree to take the case.

The Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has been representing LtCol Chessani since January 2007. He is also represented by detailed military attorneys LtCol Jon Shelburne, USMC; Capt Jeffrey King, USMC; and Capt Kyle Kilian, USMC.

Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Thomas More Law Center commented, “This case has turned into a government vendetta against a patriotic Marine combat officer who loyally served his nation for over 20 years. We must also remember the sacrifices made by his wife and children while he left them to defend us during 3 tours of duty in Iraq, and during the First Persian Gulf War, and in the Panama Canal.”

Thompson continued, “The lengths to which our own government will go to persecute one of its most loyal officers are outrageous. Every war needs a scapegoat, and it seems the government is intent on making LtCol Chessani that very thing. The Thomas More Law Center won’t let them.”

The criminal charges against LtCol Chessani stemmed from a fierce house-to-house, room-by-room combat action taken by four of his Marines after being ambushed by insurgents in Haditha, Iraq on November 19, 2005. In that battle, 9 insurgents and 15 civilians were killed. LtCol Chessani was the battalion commander of the four Marines involved in the action. Every officer in Lt Col Chessani’s chain of command, including his reviewing General approved and commended him for his actions until the publication of a Time magazine article months later charging the Marines with committing a massacre. Claims of a massacre were later proved to be untrue.

On March 17, 2009, the 3-judge panel of NMCCA unanimously vindicated the ruling by Colonel Steven A. Folsom, USMC, dismissing all charges against LtCol Chessani on the grounds of Unlawful Command Influence. LtCol Chessani is the senior-most officer criminally charged as a result of the much-publicized and ill-described “Haditha massacre.”

In dismissing the charges against LtCol Chessani, Col Folsom described Unlawful Command Influence as the “the mortal enemy of military justice.” But despite the solid legal basis for the ruling, the government appealed the decision to NMCCA. NMCCA heard oral arguments on the government’s appeal on October 17, 2008. On March 17, 2009 the court ruled in LtCol Chessani’s favor. The government appealed April 16, 2009. The Law Center responded to the Reconsideration appeal on April 24, 2009.

Click here to see Law Center’s response.
http://www.thomasmore.org/downloads/...nBancRecon.pdf

In seeking Reconsideration by the entire panel of NMCCA, government prosecutors argued that the 3-judge panel misunderstood the difference between an officer’s rank and his billet (job). Essentially, the government argues that a full colonel in the Marine Corps could not unlawfully influence a Lieutenant Colonel if they held similar billet (job) positions.

The government now has 60 days to appeal to the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces (CAAF). If the government loses at CAAF, they can seek a review by the U.S. Supreme Court. After all the appeals are over, the government can attempt to bring a new case against LtCol Chessani with a new convening authority (a new General overseeing the case if that new general so desires).

Click here to read the NMCCA’s denial of the government’s motion for Reconsideration.
http://www.thomasmore.org/downloads/...BancRecons.pdf

The Thomas More Law Center defends and promotes America’s Christian heritage and moral values, including the religious freedom of Christians, time-honored family values, and the sanctity of human life. It supports a strong national defense and an independent and sovereign United States of America. The Law Center accomplishes its mission through litigation, education, and related activities. It does not charge for its services. The Law Center is supported by contributions from individuals, corporations and foundations, and is recognized by the IRS as a section 501(c)(3) organization. You may reach the Thomas More Law Center at (734) 827-2001 or visit our website at www.thomasmore.org.
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