Stupid civilian question

rubberneck · 12-13-2005, 18:51

I didn't know where to ask this so I put it in the general discussions area. I apologize if it should be elsewhere. I have heard the use of the phrase 4th point of contact usually proceeded by pull yer head out of your.... Any ways I heard someone say pull your head out of your third point of contact today. Which is it?

longrange1947 · 12-13-2005, 19:00

Your thighs.

Your 5 points of contact for a parachute landing fall is

1 Balls of the feet.

2 Calves of the legs

3 Thighs

4 a**

Buttocks

5 Push up muscle, (side of back)

Also secondary is 1 - feet 2 - knees 3 - nose.

rubberneck · 12-13-2005, 19:03

Thanks longrange I suspected the guy was a poser but didn't want to call him on it unless I was sure he was talking out of his rear.

**The Reaper** · 12-13-2005, 19:09

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Originally Posted by rubberneck

Thanks longrange I suspected the guy was a poser but didn't want to call him on it unless I was sure he was talking out of his rear.

You mean talking out of his 4th Point of Contact.

TR

rubberneck · 12-13-2005, 19:10

The guy in question is abusing another poster on the 1911 forum claiming to be a 19 year AD vet. I can't stand bullies especailly the ones that hide behind a bogus service record.

**Pete** · 12-13-2005, 19:45

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Also secondary is 1 - feet 2 - knees 3 - nose.

And in high winds no matter how hard you hold into the wind it becomes 1 followed by 4 into a quick 6 (back of the head)

Teaching Point - No matter how fast I was being blow backwards I would allways crab a bit right so I would do a sorta' right rear PLF.

Any non jumps want to guess why?

Pete

longrange1947 · 12-13-2005, 21:07

Pete - agree, got more right PLFs then anything else.

aricbcool · 12-13-2005, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Pete

Teaching Point - No matter how fast I was being blow backwards I would allways crab a bit right so I would do a sorta' right rear PLF.

Any non jumps want to guess why?

Pete

So as to not land on your rifle, that is strapped to your left side? (just guessing here...)

--Aric

longrange1947 · 12-13-2005, 21:24

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Originally Posted by aricbcool

So as to not land on your rifle, that is strapped to your left side? (just guessing here...)

--Aric

For me atleast you have it on the nose!

Saw the aftermath of a Cpt land and hit so hard in Germany that he jammed his muzzle through a 1950 weapons container. THAT is no small feat! His shoulder was dislocated and he did not continue on with the mission.

Night infil into a DZ that was sloped up hill with a lighted farm house at the bottom. Anyone guess what was used to determine height to drop rucksack as well as to prepare for PLF. OPPS!

All of us that landed towards the top were hurting. The intel sgt whispers "look out below" and released his ruck while lying on his back on the ground.

The guys nearer the bottom did not have it much better, they had farm equipment all around them.

**Pete** · 12-13-2005, 21:24

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Originally Posted by aricbcool

So as to not land on your rifle, that is strapped to your left side? (just guessing here...)

--Aric

The rifle is 50%. And the other 50% is/was?

aricbcool · 12-13-2005, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Pete

The rifle is 50%. And the other 50% is/was?

O2?

--Aric

Gordon · 12-13-2005, 21:35

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Your thighs.

5 Push up muscle, (side of back)

5 Latissimus Dorsi

**Ambush Master** · 12-13-2005, 21:43

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Night infil into a DZ that was sloped up hill with a lighted farm house at the bottom. Anyone guess what was used to determine height to drop rucksack as well as to prepare for PLF. OPPS!

The Silhouett of the Ridgeline on the horizon!!!!

**Pete** · 12-13-2005, 22:33

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Originally Posted by aricbcool

O2?

--Aric

Lowering line.

The rucksack hits the ground like an anchor. If you are angled off to the left and moving backwards at a fast clip the lowering line can foul your legs and cause you to land off ballance.

If you are angled to the right you just pray that you run out of altitude before you run out of lowering line. If not you get to create a new form of PLF, feet, right side then head.

There is more to jumping than a fun ride. Heavy loads, short DZs, night, trees, winds, bad spot, A/C off track all can put a hurt on the unwary jumper.

They give you toggles for a reason, use them.

Pete
Who could hit a 20' circle with an MC1-1 from 3,000 feet any day. But not jumping the first pass.

aricbcool · 12-13-2005, 22:42

Thanks Pete, and LR for sharing some very informative (and entertaining) posts.

--Aric