Team Week

BMT (RIP) · 05-15-2005, 04:55

http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story....&Story=7007553

BMT

**Pete** · 05-15-2005, 05:02

You beat me to it. Those red clay based and sand roads out there at CM still look the same. The heat, humidity and knats still wear on a person.

Pete

**Razor** · 05-15-2005, 09:27

So my advice to work calf and grip strength/endurance still applies, I see.

Supe · 05-16-2005, 05:52

Good read...thanks for the link!

aricbcool · 05-16-2005, 17:50

Great article BMT. Thanks.

--Aric

Cosmic Trigger · 05-17-2005, 17:47

I remember seeing those poor bastards at Mackall a couple of months ago and wondering when the hell they brought team week back. I heard its duration was cut back a few days from the original one. I think its a good idea, but I'm kind of suprised they resurrected it at all, given that they need more dudes in the pipeline.

**Ambush Master** · 05-17-2005, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Trigger

I'm kind of suprised they resurrected it at all, given that they need more dudes in the pipeline.

What's more important ?? Dudes in the Pipeline or a FINISHED Product at the end that can carry their weight as a MEMBER of the Team ???

Cosmic Trigger · 05-17-2005, 18:29

Certainly the finished product. But that's not the message they put out by getting rid of it in the first place, or the recent press releases about how they are putting a shitload of guys through to make up the numbers. Then again, I guess if you up the number of candidates and keep the same attrition rate, you'll get more qualififed guys without sacrificing quality.

bubba · 05-17-2005, 19:16

The theory of more in equals more out is good on paper, but there are entirely too many factors to figure. The largest group of factors comes from the human beings that apply to SFAS. Then the other external factors that are applied to the people such as weather, and time of year (illium). With all these things added to the 'predictible' events of the course you can have an equasion that looks like 400 in, and 100 out, or 200 in and 100 out. Having only been through the couse and compared numbers with others these are my observations. Those who work/have worked the course will likely say the same thing, "We want the right man, not more men"

CoLawman · 05-20-2005, 07:46

Some information about the SFQC Phase 1B (Formerly known as SFAS) that was/is being featured in the Fayetteville Observer:

59 percent of those individuals that started SFQC Phase 1A (formerly known as (SOPC) made it to this Phase. Started with approx. 250.

Of the approx. 370 soldiers that started this phase approx 170 were selected yesterday.

No fanfare, no celebrations, no break........started SUT the same day!

So quick math, out of approx 620 candidates.......170 headed to SUT.

This does not include those individuals that washed out during Jump school.

Weazle23 · 05-20-2005, 10:57

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Originally Posted by CoLawman

This does not include those individuals that washed out during Jump school.

Nore should it IMHO.

**The Reaper** · 05-20-2005, 11:24

SF attrition is a tricky business.

18Xs who are dropped or injured at Basic, AIT, Airborne? What if they continue with another class after treatment?

What if the SFAS class is all 18Xs?

Do you count a guy who is a recycle from a numbered phase or who graduates with the next class? With a class two years later?

How do you count medics, who will be over a year completing training?

What about the guy who starts in one SF MOS and rolls over into another?

Lots of issues here, seen a bunch of them.

Best way to use stats is to track graduates over years for trending.

TR

Firebeef · 05-20-2005, 12:55

ahhhhhhhhhh...the memories! the smell of wet sand and pine, tincture of benzoine and sweat. those were truly the days.