Transgender training??

[sinjefe]

Seriously? So, the Army's qualifier for gender is basically socially living as one? You have to be kidding. Talk about falling down the rabbit hole.....

http://freebeacon.com/issues/army-tr...gender-troops/

[miclo18d]

"Lieutenant Marty changed his gender marker in the Service personnel data system from female to male after completing an approved transition plan. Lieutenant Marty has not had sex reassignment surgery as part of the transition plan and is working with his [military medical provider] MMP on a plan to start a family. Lieutenant Marty approached his commanding officer a few weeks ago and mentioned he was pregnant."

"Be aware that colleagues may find this situation confusing," the handbook states.

Ya think?

[cbtengr]

From this Military Times article I gather that Mattis is in no hurry to recruit transgenders into the services. As far as I am concerned they add nothing to the force and I could care less about their feelings.

http://www.militarytimes.com/article...-by-six-months

[Box]

I AM SURE THE dod WILL BE TAKING STEPS TO FIX THIS ANYTIME NOW.....

[rsdengler]

Well all I can say is Wow, what the "F"....there is something seriously wrong with our government and society today. The next thing you know people will want to change themselves to become another "species". Amazing, just freaking idiotic, how is that going to work in the Military? Nice, we really want to see the Bearded She-Man naked and pregnant in the shower. How appetizing is that to the brain.

[JimP]

In defense of the military - this isn't their doing. The last administration told them to accept trannies and they are doing what they are told. Only the Marines had the balls to stand up to it and even they were told to STFU and color. Maybe this administration can revoke this travesty but it is the call of politicians - be they civilian or in military uniforms...they are still politicians.

I've read the entire package on integrating trannies into the force....it is about what you'd expect professionals to do when told to make it happen. No one is advocating for this - so far as I can tell. It is a tremendous waste of limited resources to a population prone to suicide and suffering from mental health maladies. We don't need that shit in the foxhole.

Maybe sanity will once again reign supreme but in the haste to churn out female Rangers; integrate females into BUDS; and "norm" GILBERTS into the force, I don't see any GO's/Flags tossing their stars on the table.

[sinjefe]

^^^^^That is the most disturbing part. No high viz protest retirements of decision makers.

[Box]

Originally Posted by rsdengler

The next thing you know people will want to change themselves to become another "species".

Funny that you should mention such a crazy idea.....

EGO HIPPO: the subject as metaphor


Peer reviewed by our nations academic elite, so it must be a respectable topic with a logical finding.



I still hold military leaders accountable for wherever this ends up. If one of us commits an atrocity, using the excuse that we were "ordered by higher" to carry out an act that we knew to be illegal, immoral, or unethical - the punishment would be swift.
We have been told by our leaders since the day we entered service that we are duty bound to speak truth to power when faced with such orders.
"Moral courage" is what my Drill Sergeant called it.
Unless someone has lied to me, CGSC Department of Command and Leadership (DCL) is supposed to develop officers that have the courage to speak “truth to power”

So... either someone is failing, or "we" have got it all wrong - self-identification is whatever you want to be and the courage to be who you want demands our respects.

one or the other -
either the universe is binary - light or dark, good or bad, right or wrong
or nothing matters

If nothing matters, why do we still take a piss test? Why cant we drink while deployed? Why cant we have dirty magazines while deployed?
...our choices are all respectable aren't they?


Arent they?

[cbtengr]

Originally Posted by JimP

In defense of the military - this isn't their doing. The last administration told them to accept trannies and they are doing what they are told. Only the Marines had the balls to stand up to it and even they were told to STFU and color. Maybe this administration can revoke this travesty but it is the call of politicians - be they civilian or in military uniforms...they are still politicians.

I've read the entire package on integrating trannies into the force....it is about what you'd expect professionals to do when told to make it happen. No one is advocating for this - so far as I can tell. It is a tremendous waste of limited resources to a population prone to suicide and suffering from mental health maladies. We don't need that shit in the foxhole.

Maybe sanity will once again reign supreme but in the haste to churn out female Rangers; integrate females into BUDS; and "norm" GILBERTS into the force, I don't see any GO's/Flags tossing their stars on the table.

Very well stated, the military does what it is told to by civilians, any military person that dares to question the logic tends to be looking at a early retirement. I look at this from the vantage point of having served over 40 years ago, does today's modern soldier look at it as not that big a deal? The climate today's children grow up in tends to promote all this touchy feely embrace diversity kumbaya mumbo jumbo with participant ribbons for all where logic get's thrown out the door.

[rsdengler]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Funny that you should mention such a crazy idea.....

EGO HIPPO: the subject as metaphor

Ha..Yep, I have been considered "crazy" in one form or another LOL....Funny, how did you happen to find that "article"....just wondering

OK a metaphor of Ego Hippo....It states: This article explores the formation of a tranimal, hippopotamus alter-ego. Confronting transgender with transpecies, the author claims that his hippopotamus “identity” allowed him to (verbally) escape, all at once, several sets of categorization that govern human bodies (“gender,” “sexuality,” age). He starts with an account of how his metaphorical hippo-self is collectively produced and performed, distinguishing the subjective, the intersubjective and the social. The article then investigates the politics of equating transgender and transpecies, critically examining the question of the inclusion of “xenogenders” in the trans political movement" Quote from Angelaki Journal of the Theoretical Humanities

Oh my gosh, is that just BS or what from today's "I want to explore my new physical, transgender (am I or aren't I) and mental being in this world" morons, and of course "peer reviewed" by psychotic academic elitists...LOL...too funny, the author just needs to take a nice walk, in the pitch black along a nice steep cliff. He can explore his "Inner Ego Hippo" close to edge....

[Requiem]

The guidelines reveal that soldiers only need to get a diagnosis from a medical doctor and change their gender in a database before showering with the opposite sex.

The training discusses allowing a male soldier to shower with females because he has changed his gender in the military database. "Because she did not undergo a surgical change, the Soldier still has male genitalia," the Army training states.

All soldiers are to use the "billeting, bathroom, and shower facilities associated with their gender marker" in the DEERS database.

Seriously? No one making policy sees this as pure insanity? The tranny has balls, but the leadership doesn't.


Susan

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Funny that you should mention such a crazy idea.....

EGO HIPPO: the subject as metaphor

So, if a person identifies as another species, it's OK to hunt them, right?

Susan

[PedOncoDoc]

Originally Posted by Requiem

So, if a person identifies as another species, it's OK to hunt them, right?

Susan

Hell....the better question is can you eat them?

If so, send them to Venezuela.

[cedsall]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

So... either someone is failing, or "we" have got it all wrong - self-identification is whatever you want to be and the courage to be who you want demands our respects.

one or the other -
either the universe is binary - light or dark, good or bad, right or wrong
or nothing matters

If nothing matters, why do we still take a piss test? Why can't we drink while deployed? Why can't we have dirty magazines while deployed?
...our choices are all respectable aren't they?


Arent they?

So much truth right there.

Retired 22 years now and while reading about this chaps my ass, I'm just thankful I'm not part of it.

On a related note, folks ask me why I haven't gone into a government job in the past 20+ years. It's because I remember the petty bullshit from my 20 years.

You get to do some great stuff in the military but then there's all that mandatory, bullshit, "sit there and take it" training.

If you do raise your hand and ask the forbidden question, check your watch when your arm goes up because most folks don't know exactly when their career ended.

Best of luck to all you still on AD.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by rsdengler

Well all I can say is Wow, what the "F"....there is something seriously wrong with our government and society today. The next thing you know people will want to change themselves to become another "species". Amazing, just freaking idiotic, how is that going to work in the Military? Nice, we really want to see the Bearded She-Man naked and pregnant in the shower. How appetizing is that to the brain.

Trans-species is already here.

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/ari...97200001-story

Trannies and the gender confused, next the psychopaths and sociopaths, after that the cannibals, lastly the pedophiles.

Doesn't matter how f**ked up in the head they all are we must welcome them with open arms.......