Range estimation of Russian cruise missiles from Venuzuela

[Volunteer]

For those who were unaware of my presence here, I introduced myself 4 years ago on: 9/9/2014:

http://professionalsoldiers.com/foru...1&pp=35&page=2

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Sirs,

I'm sharing this information I stumbled across, and wondering if any of you care to comment on either validity or plausibility on the information presented, as to a CONUS threat.

V/R,
Volunteer

Quoted from the original source:
"The Tu-160 strategic bomber can carry six MKB Raduga Kh-55/101/102 cruise missiles, which have range estimates between 4,500-5,500km or more. They could pretty much launch after take off from this potential airfield. US Early Warning system weaker from the south."

Original information source:
https://twitter.com/intellipus/statu...51239360638976

[Joker]

Post an intro in the Introduction thread.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Joker

Post an intro in the Introduction thread.

I wonder if their is a way for the threads to allow for posting only when the poster has input an intro

[Pete]

Dude has been flying low under the Radar. 37 posts since 7/13/2015 with no intro and the first time he's been popped.

Ok, Volunteer, you're on the Radar now so post an intro in the proper thread

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by Pete

Dude has been flying low under the Radar. 37 posts since 7/13/2015 with no intro and the first time he's been popped.

Ok, Volunteer, you're on the Radar now so post an intro in the proper thread

Sir,

I have followed the rules. I introduced myself back on 9/9/2014.

Here's the direct link to my introduction:

http://professionalsoldiers.com/foru...1&pp=35&page=2

V/R
Volunteer

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by Joker

Post an intro in the Introduction thread.

I did, Joker, 4 years ago.

I edited my post on this topic to include a direct link to my introduction for you to review.

V/R
Volunteer

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

I wonder if their is a way for the threads to allow for posting only when the poster has input an intro

Hello Sir.

I am following the rules. Refer to my other replies in this thread that point to the direct link to my first post, in the Introductions section. There are no posts from me prior to my introduction post.

V/R
Volunteer

[Joker]

Originally Posted by Volunteer

I did, Joker, 4 years ago.

I edited my post on this topic to include a direct link to my introduction for you to review.

V/R
Volunteer

When I saw this earlier on my phone it showed you with 1 post. On my laptop you have 40 (now) and I did see your intro. You are correct.

[lindy]

Originally Posted by Volunteer

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Sirs,

I'm sharing this information I stumbled across, and wondering if any of you care to comment on either validity or plausibility on the information presented, as to a CONUS threat.

V/R,
Volunteer

Quoted from the original source:
"The Tu-160 strategic bomber can carry six MKB Raduga Kh-55/101/102 cruise missiles, which have range estimates between 4,500-5,500km or more. They could pretty much launch after take off from this potential airfield. US Early Warning system weaker from the south."

Now do the SS-N-X-30 on the Dolgorukiy-class SSBN.

This is fun! I could do this stuff for days...5 of ‘em, 40 hrs a week, 26 pay periods year to be exact.

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by lindy

Now do the SS-N-X-30 on the Dolgorukiy-class SSBN.

This is fun! I could do this stuff for days...5 of ‘em, 40 hrs a week, 26 pay periods year to be exact.

Hello Lindy.

I don't pretend to understand the military stuff well, I'm a civilian.
The Center fro Strategic and Budgetary Assessment in DC just posted the attached graphic which *might* answer your question, or raise more of them.
The description from the link says this:
"Newest @CSBA_ report showing Russia's counter-intervention capabilities (#A2AD). It covers .@NATO’s eastern front-line states and extend into central Europe, enabling Russian forces to significantly degrade a potential NATO response."

Looks like the russians are planning on being a long-term pain in the ass.

V/R
Volunteer

[tonyz]

And then there’s this...complete article at link with video.

Russia thumbs its nose at America by sharing VIDEO of two nuclear-capable Tu-160 bombers flying over the Caribbean sea escorted by Venezuelan fighter jets for a 10-hour training mission

Two Tu-160 fighter jets, designated as 'Blackjacks' by NATO, took part in a training session with Venezuelan Air Force Wednesday

The planes, known in Russia as 'White Swans,' arrived in Venezuela Monday, sparking fury in Washington DC

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo slammed the joint exercise as 'two corrupt governments squandering public funds'

On the day of the training mission, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro accused the Trump administration of plotting to assassinate him

By ASSOCIATED PRESS and SNEJANA FARBEROV FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15:41 EST, 12 December 2018 | UPDATED: 15:46 EST, 14 December 2018

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bbean-Sea.html

Two of Russia's nuclear-capable Tu-160 strategic bombers designated as 'Blackjacks' by NATO have flown over the Caribbean sea during a 10-hour training mission with the Venezuelan Air Force amid escalating tensions between Moscow and Washington DC, coupled with allegations of meddling in Caracas.

The flight of the jets was recorded on video, which Russia's Ministry of Defense then proudly shared on *******.

The planes, known in Russia as 'White Swans', arrived at Maiquetia airport outside Caracas on Monday after completing a 6,200-mile journey.

The Russian Defense Ministry said they were escorted by Venezuelan Su-30 and F-16 fighter jets during part of the training mission on Wednesday to practice interaction. It's unknown if the planes were carrying missiles, or how long they would stay in Venezuela.

The Tu-160 is capable of carrying conventional or nuclear-tipped cruise missiles with a range of 3,410 miles and flying over 7,500 miles without refueling.

One of the videos released by the Russian Ministry of Defense to RT.comshows Tu-160 pilots inside the cockpit during the flight.

Another video depicts the fighter jets taking off from Maiquetia at night and then landing at the airport the following morning.

The Russian bombers' deployment has infuriated Washington, where US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo characterized the joint training session as 'two corrupt governments squandering public funds, and squelching liberty and freedom while their people suffer.'

The Kremlin on Tuesday rejected Pompeo's criticism, saying it was 'highly undiplomatic' and 'completely inappropriate.'

'As for the idea that we are squandering money, we do not agree. It's not really appropriate for a country half of whose defense budget could feed the whole of Africa to be making such statements,' spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza called Pompeo's comments 'not only disrespectful, but cynical,' highlighting the number of military bases the United States owns abroad.

'It's strange the U.S. government questions our right to cooperate on defense and security with other countries, when @realDonaldTrump publicly threatens us with a military invasion,' Arreaza tweeted.

[lindy]

Originally Posted by Volunteer

Hello Lindy.

I don't pretend to understand the military stuff well, I'm a civilian.

Looks like the russians are planning on being a long-term pain in the ass.

V/R
Volunteer

Just busting your chops. This site is probably a better reference.

https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-n-32-bulava/

Also has tech specs about the Air Launched Cruise Missiles (ALCM).

I don’t think the USG is concerned the BJs are in South America...as long as they know what they’re up to. Putin, IMO, is just trying to tell the world that he’s still relevant.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Volunteer

Hello Lindy.

I don't pretend to understand the military stuff well, I'm a civilian.
The Center fro Strategic and Budgetary Assessment in DC just posted the attached graphic which *might* answer your question, or raise more of them.
The description from the link says this:
"Newest @CSBA_ report showing Russia's counter-intervention capabilities (#A2AD). It covers .@NATO’s eastern front-line states and extend into central Europe, enabling Russian forces to significantly degrade a potential NATO response."

Looks like the russians are planning on being a long-term pain in the ass.

V/R
Volunteer

Well the long and short of yes it is a threat but guaranteed this is but one of many and that is the reality of the geo-political world that liberal-leftist don't seem to understand and certainly view it much different than conservatives do.

The Russians will be a pain in our ass as they have been since the post WW2 cold war era....not because they're not good people but the world we deal with is about power, resources and economics.....Russian political thinking is opposed to our system of consent of the governed. Things like this are a funny thing we can have stretches where our economy is critical to theirs and it is in there best interest to see us flourish like Chiba for so long and then their are eras where they feel independent enough to seek out the geo-political relationships that leverage resources.

In the grand scheme of the world the United States is unique where other countries seek to preserve and life their nation, language and culture and get rid of foreigners, for the most part the rest of the world is mostly segregated by ethnicity, the United States is not only non ethnic it is flourishing with the most diverse population in the world...this concept is foreign the rest of the world powers and it seems they cannot quite figure out how to dilute the glue that binds our nation together.

So the bottom line is yes of course many of us understand how this threat effects us but QP's generally do not deal in the realm of proliferation and nuclear threats our focus is stability and regime stability or change, all we can do is affect the stability of host nations and hope that this stability thwarts war of any kind.

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by lindy

Just busting your chops. This site is probably a better reference.

https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-n-32-bulava/

Also has tech specs about the Air Launched Cruise Missiles (ALCM).

I don’t think the USG is concerned the BJs are in South America...as long as they know what they’re up to. Putin, IMO, is just trying to tell the world that he’s still relevant.

No worries on busting my chops - understood.

I'm a techie, so I naturally lean toward the techie side of the news and Russian activities have really picked up, so I look for the technical side of whats publicly available, knowing full well any or all of what I can find is completely false, so I ask questions here. I agree with your point that Putin is working hard to make motions about relevance, but I'll never see him as anything other than a semi-rational sociopath with some psychopathic delusions about ruling the whole world one day.

Putin seems to fit both these definitions:
Psychopaths: Classified as with little or no conscience. Psychopaths can and do follow social conventions when it suits their needs, more to blend in as part of intentional deception.
Sociopaths: Classified as capable of limited empathy and remorse and are more likely to react violently whenever they're confronted by the consequences of their actions. Don't give a rip about anyone's opinion of what they're doing.

From other news I saw earlier reports today indicating that we and our allies are getting a closer look at that part of the world and I hope we take steps to frustrate Putin's ambitions and roll back the success he's had screwing with everyone he can reach.

My questions reveal my ignorance, and if any question I pose here gets no replies I won't pursue them further.

V/R
Volunteer

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

Well the long and short of yes it is a threat but guaranteed this is but one of many and that is the reality of the geo-political world that liberal-leftist don't seem to understand and certainly view it much different than conservatives do.

The Russians will be a pain in our ass as they have been since the post WW2 cold war era....not because they're not good people but the world we deal with is about power, resources and economics.....Russian political thinking is opposed to our system of consent of the governed. Things like this are a funny thing we can have stretches where our economy is critical to theirs and it is in there best interest to see us flourish like Chiba for so long and then their are eras where they feel independent enough to seek out the geo-political relationships that leverage resources.

In the grand scheme of the world the United States is unique where other countries seek to preserve and life their nation, language and culture and get rid of foreigners, for the most part the rest of the world is mostly segregated by ethnicity, the United States is not only non ethnic it is flourishing with the most diverse population in the world...this concept is foreign the rest of the world powers and it seems they cannot quite figure out how to dilute the glue that binds our nation together.

So the bottom line is yes of course many of us understand how this threat effects us but QP's generally do not deal in the realm of proliferation and nuclear threats our focus is stability and regime stability or change, all we can do is affect the stability of host nations and hope that this stability thwarts war of any kind.

Thank you for your reply, that really does help clear up some of my misconceptions about geopolitics. I spend more time here reading than anything else and have learned quite a lot along the way. Your description of the contrast between consent of the governed versus other models is very insightful. I really hope nobody figures out a solvent for the glue holding us together!

V/R
Volunteer