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Old 10-23-2016, 23:32   #1
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US Nuclear Response Time - Thanks Hilary! Love, US Enemies

So, and I'm actually surprised I haven't seen this yet but did anyone else catch what Hillary said in the final debate... She gave the entire world pretty much the exact amount of time it would take for the US to come out with a Nuclear Strike... My mind goes numb trying to comprehend how she's not in Prison. Is it just cool to discuss US Nuclear Launch Capabilities on National TV now?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQcnTSkDQA
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Old 10-25-2016, 10:38   #2
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The only good news: when it comes down to it and nukes start criss-crossing the skies, the only difference a few minutes will make is giving us a spare moment to reflect on our life choices.
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Old 10-25-2016, 11:31   #3
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My understanding is that a ballistic missile sub can park close enough off our coast to fire their missiles in a depressed trajectory mode and hit coastal targets like DC or NYC in just a few minutes.

The time to launch has to be short enough to allow a counterstrike to be authorized and launched before the chain of command is disrupted, if not decapitated, and the opponent needs to understand that will take place regardless.

IIRC, that is one of the reasons for the quick timing.

If you tell me that you can launch a counterstrike in four minutes, then I have to work to get my retaliatory strike in under that time.

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Old 10-25-2016, 11:44   #4
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My understanding is that a ballistic missile sub can park close enough off our coast to fire their missiles in a depressed trajectory mode and hit coastal targets like DC or NYC in just a few minutes.

The time to launch has to be short enough to allow a counterstrike to be authorized and launched before the chain of command is disrupted, if not decapitated, and the opponent needs to understand that will take place regardless.

IIRC, that is one of the reasons for the quick timing.

If you tell me that you can launch a counterstrike in four minutes, then I have to work to get my decapitation first strike in under that time.


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There is no need to panic and go all nuk-Lee-are war over the loss of those two cities.
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Old 10-25-2016, 12:38   #5
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My understanding is that a ballistic missile sub can park close enough off our coast to fire their missiles in a depressed trajectory mode and hit coastal targets like DC or NYC in just a few minutes.

The time to launch has to be short enough to allow a counterstrike to be authorized and launched before the chain of command is disrupted, if not decapitated, and the opponent needs to understand that will take place regardless.

IIRC, that is one of the reasons for the quick timing.

If you tell me that you can launch a counterstrike in four minutes, then I have to work to get my retaliatory strike in under that time.

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I've been out of the game for 3 decades so I'm sure the technology is better. Modern cruise missile firing subs can sit close offshore and put a warhead on target before any countermeasures could be taken. Other countries have subs that can fire ballistic missiles that do not reach the upper atmosphere like our ICBM's.

An enemy who has decided to use nuclear weapons on the US would be better served by multiple EMP enhanced high altitude bursts fired from subs (or non-military ships) just off the coast that would likely put us back into the 19th century. The book "1 Second After" is a good read on this.
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Old 10-25-2016, 18:13   #6
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I've been out of the game for 3 decades so I'm sure the technology is better. Modern cruise missile firing subs can sit close offshore and put a warhead on target before any countermeasures could be taken. Other countries have subs that can fire ballistic missiles that do not reach the upper atmosphere like our ICBM's.

An enemy who has decided to use nuclear weapons on the US would be better served by multiple EMP enhanced high altitude bursts fired from subs (or non-military ships) just off the coast that would likely put us back into the 19th century. The book "1 Second After" is a good read on this.
"1 Second After" is an excellent, well researched book that is very scary.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:16   #7
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Read up on the KH-102. Air launched, nuke capable cruise missile that can range the US even when launched from inside Russian airspace. Being a cruise missile, it doesn't go ballistic and therefore avoids most of NORAD's ICBM-focused radars, and pretty much all of the US ballistic missile defenses.

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