Obama and his betrayal?

[WarriorDiplomat]

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...-based-on-lies

The GOP's refusal to impeach for incompetence is sickening, yes high crimes and misdemeanors are the criteria but if nothing else exposure where we have the captive liberals attention.

[Golf1echo]

I certainly agree with the idea of impeaching this reprobate. Ironically as he neuters the United States Military he himself has become the most lethal POTUS in history personally giving directives to kill individuals across the globe, Narcissism exudes from every pore with the First Term Senator that had such little leadership experience to bring to the table. These are only a few facets of his failure with regards to the American people and country.. in my eyes.

On the other hand his fantasy programs and obfuscation of so many branches of our government are out in the open for all to see and it follows that this one man alone and his policies will drive more conservative, middle of the isle voters, working people, and business owners to vote against such lunacy this next go around...IMO

For certain he has disrespected the office of the President, done little to clean up the problems in Washington, and contributed so little to his own constituency.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

yes high crimes and misdemeanors are the criteria

A lot of the language of the Founders has been misinterpreted or flatly misrepresented.

This is closer to my understanding of those terms:

Meaning of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors"

by Jon Roland, Constitution Society

The question of impeachment turns on the meaning of the phrase in the Constitution at Art. II Sec. 4, "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors". I have carefully researched the origin of the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" and its meaning to the Framers, and found that the key to understanding it is the word "high". It does not mean "more serious". It refers to those punishable offenses that only apply to high persons, that is, to public officials, those who, because of their official status, are under special obligations that ordinary persons are not under, and which could not be meaningfully applied or justly punished if committed by ordinary persons.

Under the English common law tradition, crimes were defined through a legacy of court proceedings and decisions that punished offenses not because they were prohibited by statutes, but because they offended the sense of justice of the people and the court. Whether an offense could qualify as punishable depended largely on the obligations of the offender, and the obligations of a person holding a high position meant that some actions, or inactions, could be punishable if he did them, even though they would not be if done by an ordinary person.

Offenses of this kind survive today in the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It recognizes as punishable offenses such things as perjury of oath, refusal to obey orders, abuse of authority, dereliction of duty, failure to supervise, moral turpitude, and conduct unbecoming. These would not be offenses if committed by a civilian with no official position, but they are offenses which bear on the subject's fitness for the duties he holds, which he is bound by oath or affirmation to perform.

Perjury is usually defined as "lying under oath". That is not quite right. The original meaning was "violation of one's oath (or affirmation)".

The word "perjury" is usually defined today as "lying under oath about a material matter", but that is not its original or complete meaning, which is "violation of an oath". We can see this by consulting the original Latin from which the term comes. From An Elementary Latin Dictionary, by Charlton T. Lewis (1895), Note that the letter "j" is the letter "i" in Latin.

periurium, i, n,, a false oath, perjury.

periurus, adj., oath-breaking, false to vows, perjured.

iuro, avi, atus, are, to swear, take an oath.

iurator, oris, m., a swearer.

iuratus, adj., sworn under oath, bound by an oath.

ius, iuris, that which is binding, right, justice, duty.

per, ... IV. Of means or manner, through, by, by means of, ... under pretense of, by the pretext of, ....

By Art. II Sec. 1 Cl. 8, the president must swear: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." He is bound by this oath in all matters until he leaves office. No additional oath is needed to bind him to tell the truth in anything he says, as telling the truth is pursuant to all matters except perhaps those relating to national security. Any public statement is perjury if it is a lie, and not necessary to deceive an enemy.

Complete article: http://www.constitution.org/cmt/high_crimes.htm

Prior to BO's second term election, Mark Levin, a constitutional lawyer, listed 16 impeachable offenses. There are many more now. Obama is THE most impeachable President in US history.

Pat

[Flagg]

But will it ever happen(or at least in the short term)?

Regardless of the extent of alleged crimes?

Wouldn't the impeachment of the spokesperson kick open the door to the indictment of fellow collaborators, facilitators, enablers and owners(campaign finance)?

Isn't the political corruption problem in the US akin to the financial corruption problem in the US that led to the GFC(and shielded by the political campaign finance corruption)?

Meaning "too big to fail" right up until its not?

Financial markets may not be the best analog to political "markets", but there is a correlation(and some causation).

I'm reminded of the Keynes saying "Markets can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

Sadly, right doesn't equate to result(at least immediately) in political markets either.

I am really looking forward to seeing what happens with President Obama's final days and Presidential pardons.

I wonder if there's even a possibility of that pardon list leaking early?

I"m guessing it could be the longest Presidential Pardon list ever?

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by PSM

A lot of the language of the Founders has been misinterpreted or flatly misrepresented.

This is closer to my understanding of those terms:



Prior to BO's second term election, Mark Levin, a constitutional lawyer, listed 16 impeachable offenses. There are many more now. Obama is THE most impeachable President in US history.

Pat

Absolutely, Biden may be worse but from what I have read of former insiders he seems more reasonable. Full impeachment would require us to hope he is no worse and possibly more reluctant to follow through with Obama's dream. The real question is...is Congress more concerned with dealing with Biden than Obama??what do they know that stops them??

[abc_123]

Can't all this talk of impeachment wait until after the college football playoffs, the Super Bowl, and March Madness?

We need to stick to priorities.

[BrokenSwitch]

Brush Okie, it seems like we're considering the possibility that for all the stupid stuff Biden says, at least Congress could keep him in a gilded cage until the next election.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Flagg

I am really looking forward to seeing what happens with President Obama's final days and Presidential pardons.

The pardons will be the least of the trouble that guy's capable of stirring up in the last few months of his term.
He ain't gonna be no lame duck, I warrant you that.
Wait'll this summer.

It's all about undermining the original foundation upon which the Country was built-a process Obama loathes from his grooming by Davis through his tweaking by JWright.

The hilarious thing is, he hasn't tried to hide it. The "straight" constituents have been gritting their teeth for 7-plus years while carping to anybody who'd listen about the dangers of the guy's philosophy, while the hippie spawn have reveled in the destruction of the National base. That's why Trump's so appealing to so many.

It'll turn around, but that guy hasn't even triggered his actions on the objective, yet.

[Box]

It'll turn around, but that guy hasn't even triggered his actions on the objective, yet.

I am waiting for the circus show that will begin the instant his career as a muckraker starts. Prior to 2008 the man got very little national attention because activists like him were less than a dime a dozen.
A radical activist that can produce a resume that includes "President of the USA" is going to be a very interesting thing to watch.

Considering that he is only 54 and very healthy, every American president for the next 40 years is going to be forced to take social justice attacks from the former POTUS into consideration.

Brave New World folks.


My prediction for the future of aMErican politics...
"shit sandwich, its whats for dinner"

[Ret10Echo]

I don't think we can get our minds around the level of "stupid" that is going to be unfurled in the coming months.

Good luck y'all.

[Remington Raidr]

Originally Posted by abc_123

Can't all this talk of impeachment wait until after the college football playoffs, the Super Bowl, and March Madness?

We need to stick to priorities.

. . . there it is.

[TOMAHAWK9521]

America’s juiced: Obama pledges to ‘squeeze every ounce of Change™’ out of his last year in office
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By Doug Powers • December 28, 2015 06:49 AM

Barack Obama is preparing for his final State of the Union Address, which he’ll deliver January 12. And the president is not looking to slow down as the end of his presidency nears.

“I’ve got 12 months left to squeeze every ounce of change I can while I’m still in office. And that’s what I intend to do,” Obama writes in an email to supporters.In other words, Obama’s Cuisinart of fundamental transformation has a special final-year “revenge” setting. Gird your coins, and everything else.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by TOMAHAWK9521

Gird your coins,

I use plastic! Can they be girded?

Pat

[ccrn]

Mostly he will be focused on a "gun grab" and trying to ban as much as possible before leaving office. Also trying to inflict as much damage to conservatives or moderates on either side of the aisle (yes some Dems actually opposed more gun restrictions recently) and setting things up for Hilary.

An impeachment is out of the question as it would do too much harm to the RNC and party.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Dusty

The pardons will be the least of the trouble that guy's capable of stirring up in the last few months of his term.
He ain't gonna be no lame duck, I warrant you that.
Wait'll this summer.

It's all about undermining the original foundation upon which the Country was built-a process Obama loathes from his grooming by Davis through his tweaking by JWright.

The hilarious thing is, he hasn't tried to hide it. The "straight" constituents have been gritting their teeth for 7-plus years while carping to anybody who'd listen about the dangers of the guy's philosophy, while the hippie spawn have reveled in the destruction of the National base. That's why Trump's so appealing to so many.

It'll turn around, but that guy hasn't even triggered his actions on the objective, yet.

That's sounding pretty spooky.

It will be interesting to see how domestic/OCONUS crisis will be used to both hide such efforts, as well as useful in hindering and disrupting such efforts.