SF catching the blame for hospital strike

Marlboro · 10-26-2015, 14:15

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Army Green Berets who requested the Oct. 3 airstrike on the Doctors without Borders trauma center in Afghanistan were aware it was a functioning hospital but believed it was under Taliban control, The Associated Press has learned."

http://bigstory.ap.org/a39810b7161d42fcb0abe36576d26730

Paslode · 10-26-2015, 16:44

Russia has allegedly bombed 4-9 hospitals...where is the outrage

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...an-doctors-say

Oldrotorhead · 10-26-2015, 18:59

Would this be the first time Doctors without Borders supported or hid savages? What does physical evidence from the hospital show? Weapons? Taliban communications gear?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/wo...yria.html?_r=0

RomanCandle · 10-27-2015, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode

Russia has allegedly bombed 4-9 hospitals...where is the outrage

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...an-doctors-say

Might find that the "allegedly" part has something to do with it.

Divemaster · 10-27-2015, 22:15

In retrospect, was my posting of the grid on the JTAC discussion forum a bad idea?

**Pete** · 11-25-2015, 13:52

Some in military suspended for deadly Afghan hospital attack

http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-hospita...politics.html#

"WASHINGTON (AP) — American soldiers and airmen who killed and wounded dozens of civilians in a strike on an Afghanistan hospital violated U.S. rules of engagement and have been suspended as they await disciplinary action that could include criminal charges, military officials said Wednesday..."

Shit rolls down hill. What ever happened to Presidents who said "The buck stops here."?

cbtengr · 11-25-2015, 14:10

It is very hard for me to believe such a thing could happen. I was under the impression that we always dropped pamphlets warning the good guys to un-ass the area before the shtf. War is hell and it should be all or nothing.

Guy · 11-25-2015, 14:35

The comparison of conduct between LEO vs military is not the same!

In the military, people were sacked for dumbshit when it came too firing weapons, losing weapons, saying the wrong shit, shooting at the wrong person, bombing the wrong target, fucking & sucking, violation of General Order #1, illegal use of OPFUNDS, cursing, homosexuality, straight sex, driving to fast, fighting to protect each other in a foreign country, saying you believe... in God, Satan sucks ass, titties & dicks on the same body is weird, you retarded Black/White/Asian/Arab/African/Hispanic/Latino/Irish/English/(if I missed race...get the fuck over it), etc.

For LEOs:

Get some first aid training... once you shoot someone, it won't hurt one bit too treat'em.; they make us do it in the military and it looks good on vehicle/body cams.

Ret10Echo · 11-25-2015, 15:21

Just listened to a replay of the Press Conference....CSPAN has it.

Probably be good to hear it directly from the military than from an MSM filter (Just sayin') Especially the AP

Quote:

In the final poll of a series measuring perceptions of media bias, the Associated Press, local television stations, MSNBC, and CNBC are all perceived as tilting to the left when reporting the news.

Gen. John Campbell provided a sequence of events for context.

MtnGoat · 11-27-2015, 09:56

All I'm saying is, did anyone see any videos of the Bombed out Hospital wing??

I mean, news Crews were all over that hospital, but all I really saw was the outside and the wings where MFS were taking care of the wounded.

This wasn't bad judgment on the parts of the SFODA(s) on the ground, they engaged the enemy.

Also why no videos of the battle, we (the USA) seems to always like showing off videos. So why not this time??

Doesn't that make anyone ask questions??

cat in the hat · 11-27-2015, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Some in military suspended for deadly Afghan hospital attack

http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-hospita...politics.html#

"WASHINGTON (AP) — American soldiers and airmen who killed and wounded dozens of civilians in a strike on an Afghanistan hospital violated U.S. rules of engagement and have been suspended as they await disciplinary action that could include criminal charges, military officials said Wednesday..."

Shit rolls down hill. What ever happened to Presidents who said "The buck stops here."?

We now have a POYUS who prefers to say "the buck stops There"

SF_BHT · 11-27-2015, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by cat in the hat

We now have a POYUS who prefers to say "the buck stops There"

I heard a report yesterday about this. I sounded like an officer at a SOF HQ approved the tgt. The AC130 had most of its sensors down and still did the mission. The TGT was several hundred meters from the hospital and the aerial photos of the desired TGT (AFG HQ that had been taken over) looked just like the hospital. The recordings of AC internal discussions questioned the TGT but decided to press on. The media is selectively giving out pieces of the info but still trying to press on with their narrative that they want.

Sounds to me they are going to hang out the Officer at the Higher HQ and the Air Crew.

Red Flag 1 · 11-27-2015, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Some in military suspended for deadly Afghan hospital attack

http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-hospita...politics.html#

"WASHINGTON (AP) — American soldiers and airmen who killed and wounded dozens of civilians in a strike on an Afghanistan hospital violated U.S. rules of engagement and have been suspended as they await disciplinary action that could include criminal charges, military officials said Wednesday..."

Shit rolls down hill. What ever happened to Presidents who said "The buck stops here."?

We are so far away from the generation of Americans, and HST, who exhibited leadership and responsibility for one's own actions. Gone too is the professional journalism, which has now become an active arm of promoting presidential policy and actions. With all these changes, leadership from the White House has also been absent for the past seven years. I think the question now is, will we ever get things turned around again? How much of a hand has the press had in shaping and spinning the "news" of this, and other, unfortunate events?

Ret10Echo · 11-28-2015, 07:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnGoat

All I'm saying is, did anyone see any videos of the Bombed out Hospital wing??

I mean, news Crews were all over that hospital, but all I really saw was the outside and the wings where MFS were taking care of the wounded.

This wasn't bad judgment on the parts of the SFODA(s) on the ground, they engaged the enemy.

Also why no videos of the battle, we (the USA) seems to always like showing off videos. So why not this time??

Doesn't that make anyone ask questions??

Goat.... From what I have read and listened to, the only ones who had eyes on the hospital was the gunship crew.

I agree with SF_BHT... on the HQ folks....Commander at the airfield and JTAC (maybe) along with the AC crew getting flamed....

**The Reaper** · 11-28-2015, 09:36

I wonder how much sleep was lost when missions over Schweinfurt, Hamburg, Dresden, Berlin, etc. missed military targets and hit civilians.

"War is Hell and you cannot refine it."

I guess when 99% of the population has never served and a sizable portion of them are hard-core indoctrinated anti-military, they miss no opportunity to second-guess and attack those who have or are serving.

TR