Majority of Americans Are Ready For a Muslim President, Including Catholics

[Surf n Turf]

Not sure that I believe to Gallup poll. I am not sure that even the Muslims would agree with the results.

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Majority of Americans Are Ready For a Muslim President, Including Catholics

On average 60 percent of Americans would be willing to vote for a president who was a “generally well-qualified person who happened to be Muslim,” according to a new Gallup poll.

The acceptance for a Muslim presidential candidate is highest among adults who profess no religion (82 percent). 69 percent of Catholics and only 44 percent of Protestants would be willing to vote for a Muslim presidential candidate.

Saud Anwar, the mayor of South Windsor in Connecticut and the state’s first Muslim mayor, said of the poll that he is encouraged by an upward trajectory, if the 60 percent is to be used as a proxy of acceptance of Muslims, according to the Religion News Service. He thinks that “religious labels” are less critical at the local level, but may become more important for people in national elections.

Amaney Jamal, a professor of politics at Princeton University, said that “60 percent isn’t a bad a number on average.”

She underlined, however, how much worse Muslims are doing in the poll compared to other religious and racial groups, calling the outcome “troubling.” According to the poll, 93 percent of U.S. adults on average would be willing to vote for Catholic presidential candidate, 92 percent for a female or a black candidate, 91 percent for a Hispanic or Jewish candidate, and 81 percent for a Mormon candidate.

Young people are more willing to vote for a Muslim presidential candidate with 76 percent of 18 to 29 year-olds and 67 percent of 30 to 49 year-olds, according to the poll. Jamal thinks this is because young people have more direct daily interactions with Muslims at work or school.

The poll was conducted via telephone interviews with a random sample of 1,527 American adults, aged 18 and older, on June 2 – 7, 2015.

http://www.worldreligionnews.com/rel...ding-catholics

[Go Devil]

Agitprop

[Paslode]

While at the same time......

Pew: Huge spike in Americans 'very concerned' about domestic Islamic extremism

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pe...rticle/2568471

[(1VB)compforce]

and how many of those polled said "yes" when asked if they would vote for a Muslim President, but really wouldn't. I have this feeling that a portion of the reason for the rising percentage is because the younger generation is concerned about presenting an appearance of diversity. Us older folks tend to call it like we see it and aren't as concerned about what others think of our opinions.

Now that said... I know an Active Duty SF guy that is close to retirement, served for many years on Delta/CAG, etc. He's a devout Muslim. If he ran for President, would you vote for him if his platform fit your values? Is there any difference between that and another candidate that practices (moderate) Islam?

Personally I don't care about a candidate's race, religon or gender. I care about their ideology and how they apply their values to their campaign and how I believe they will apply those values in office. I strongly suspect that I wouldn't vote for a Muslim, not specifically because they are Muslim, but because many of the values that are espoused in the religon and that would drive policy decisions are opposed to my own values. I also wouldn't be very likely to vote for a feminism activist, an environmental activist, a nazi, a klan member, a member of the black panther party, a socialist, a marxist or any of a number of other fringe groups for the same reasons. Radicalism has no place in government, regardless of whether they are on the extreme far right or far left.

[MR2]

Originally Posted by (1VB)compforce

and how many of those polled said "yes" when asked if they would vote for a Muslim President, but really wouldn't. I have this feeling that a portion of the reason for the rising percentage is because the younger generation is concerned about presenting an appearance of diversity. Us older folks tend to call it like we see it and aren't as concerned about what others think of our opinions.

Agreed. Indoctrinated, not educated.

Now that said... I know an Active Duty SF guy that is close to retirement, served for many years on Delta/CAG, etc. He's a devout Muslim. If he ran for President, would you vote for him if his platform fit your values? Is there any difference between that and another candidate that practices (moderate) Islam?

Personally I don't care about a candidate's race, religon or gender. I care about their ideology and how they apply their values to their campaign and how I believe they will apply those values in office. I strongly suspect that I wouldn't vote for a Muslim, not specifically because they are Muslim, but because many of the values that are espoused in the religon and that would drive policy decisions are opposed to my own values. I also wouldn't be very likely to vote for a feminism activist, an environmental activist, a nazi, a klan member, a member of the black panther party, a socialist, a marxist or any of a number of other fringe groups for the same reasons. Radicalism has no place in government, regardless of whether they are on the extreme far right or far left.

What if that 'candidate's race, religon[sic] or gender' involved/embraced a culture of deceit?

Personally, I will eschew the above referenced types of candidates.

As for radicalism in government, I'd dare say any one value that any member here holds true to themselves is considered radical by at least one other member here.

Damn, the way things are going, I'm looking for a radical to vote for!

[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by (1VB)compforce

a...I know an Active Duty SF guy that is close to retirement, served for many years on Delta/CAG, etc. He's a devout Muslim...

Cant be too devout. He either does not accept all of Islam or he is lying about it. I am not questioning his loyalty to the Constitution, more-so to the religion he espouses.

[PRB]

You mean another like the one we have now?

[craigepo]

Originally Posted by (1VB)compforce

Now that said... I know an Active Duty SF guy that is close to retirement, served for many years on Delta/CAG, etc. He's a devout Muslim. If he ran for President, would you vote for him if his platform fit your values?

No. I don't see any way I would have anything important in common with a devout Muslim. I don't see how an actual, devout Muslim who studied and followed the Koran as it is written could be a patriotic American citizen.

[The Reaper]

A "devout" Muslim absolutely puts religion before everything, including country.

TR

[(1VB)compforce]

Perhaps devout wasn't the right choice of word. Maybe "practicing Muslim" would have been a better choice. He is of the Muslim faith and follows the tenets. He is NOT a radical or hardcore Islamist by any means. He doesn't follow Sharia law. He and I had a pretty long discussion about it one day while we were working together on something.

[greyhound]

Originally Posted by PRB

You mean another like the one we have now?

So Few see the truth

[Tree Potato]

Originally Posted by (1VB)compforce

Perhaps devout wasn't the right choice of word. Maybe "practicing Muslim" would have been a better choice. He is of the Muslim faith and follows the tenets. He is NOT a radical or hardcore Islamist by any means. He doesn't follow Sharia law. He and I had a pretty long discussion about it one day while we were working together on something.

Many Iraqis prefer secular law over Sharia, but they're afraid and stay quiet to survive. A few Sunni and Shia IqAF officers I advised had more in common with my beliefs (Catholic) than a lot of secular, inner city Americans, or the Planned Parenthood bunch. Of course, one ended up meeting with the local Chaldean bishop, converting, changing his name, and resettling his family in another city, so his faith in the Religion of Peace was probably shaken before OIF. But the others certainly had strong belief in their faith even though they chose to deemphasize the bloodier side of their religion, focusing instead on family and compassion for the less fortunate.

[Box]

...there aren't enough bullshit flags in the inventory to throw at such a claim.