04-02-2014, 06:44
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The new AR 670-1 explained
Has everyone got their new umbrella and filed their tattoo declaration?
http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/uniform/
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04-02-2014, 09:25
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Telling Soldiers that ANYTHING is "punitive" is like telling the kids you're gonna tell daddy when he gets home. There was a day when EVERYTHING was punitive if "big sarge" told you to fucking execute and you didnt.
...and 'big-sarge' never had to remind you that "get a fucking haircut" was a punitive order.
I reckon its like all "animals being equal"...
..."All punitive regulations are punitive, but some punitive regulations are more punitive than others".
It's speaks volumes to someones TRUE leadership talent when they have to invoke "daddy will punish you when he gets home"
Punitive schmunitive.
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04-02-2014, 11:51
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There was a post on another web site quoting some black female soldiers claiming that the new policy on hair (braids, cornrows, etc.) was rayciss. It warms my heart that the army has so few problems that CSA Chandler, GEN Dempsey and Odierno can focus all their efforts on a revised, updated and relevant AR 670-1.
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04-02-2014, 18:01
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Trapper, it's all about "me". Iz bee kneading much corn-rows an Shiit, you white cracker muffin-flockers don know nuffin from nuffin.
Nothing like getting With the program huh? Maybe we can all hide in our cars when retreat is played..... 
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04-02-2014, 19:14
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I had a female soldier (no capital "S" for her) argue with me that it impedes her ability for a natural hair style and it's racist. I asked what natural hairstyle she was referring too.
...............corn rows and braids.
I sat my coffee down on my vehicle in the motorpool and asked her where in the fuck she has ever seen anyone have hair that grows naturally in cornrows and braids. I told her to just get back to checking her vehicle and moving out without bringing it up again. I told her if she had an issue, please go talk with the 1SG.
Her supervisor came to ask me WTF happened because she was huffy and someone "wronged her". He realized it was me and went back to explain the circumstances.
Racist against natural hair. Give me a fucking break.
I get to keep my sideburns......I'm fine now. 
I agree with Billy on the "punitive" items. I still know that telling someone to do something that is required by reg or enforcing it is one way to bring holy Hell if it goes without action. I don't lead through fear, but I do spot check my guys and I get the slow nod, no talking, no crying and bitching. Fixed after lunch and we go about our jobs. Very rare, so there is no need to bring the hate.
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04-02-2014, 19:29
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The more people you run off, the fewer you have to cut.
And has anyone here who served not seen the full Predator Dreadzilla, in uniform, with braids pulled into a basketball that would require its own helmet?
TR
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04-02-2014, 20:51
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
The more people you run off, the fewer you have to cut.
And has anyone here who served not seen the full Predator Dreadzilla, in uniform, with braids pulled into a basketball that would require its own helmet?
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I have and seen "it" try to wear a helmet. Chinstrap let out completely, sitting on top of the head with 75% of the head exposed. Defeats the purpose, but you can get them all "hooahed" up and send them to recon......by fire if needed
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04-03-2014, 07:04
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I've been pretty lucky over the years simply because of the restriction on women in SF but I suspect once the brass figures out how to squeeze females through the Q-Course it will show up a lot more often.
Maybe with dreadzilla in the ranks we wont get hassled as much about civilian hiking shoes and velcro team patches on field uniforms.
Some things are more important than other things....
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04-03-2014, 09:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
The more people you run off, the fewer you have to cut.
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That may be exactly what Chandler, Dempsey and Odierno want.
RIF by hair stylist.. 
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04-03-2014, 19:58
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
That may be exactly what Chandler, Dempsey and Odierno want.
RIF by hair stylist.. |
They came by Walter Reed not long ago to talk to the troops, ie:taut their good ideas. I walked right past them, as they were discussing decreased capability to soldier for amputees, with my ruck on headed for a short 6-miler. I so badly wanted to invite them to join me. When I returned they were still running off their soup coolers to the few impressionable LTs and junior CPTs left... I nodded and headed for a shower.
We need true leadership in the military as a whole.
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04-03-2014, 20:17
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They came by Walter Reed not long ago to talk to the troops, ie:taut their good ideas. I walked right past them, as they were discussing decreased capability to soldier for amputees, with my ruck on headed for a short 6-miler. I so badly wanted to invite them to join me. When I returned they were still running off their soup coolers to the few impressionable LTs and junior CPTs left... I nodded and headed for a shower.
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Fuck yeah. That's awesome man.
You made this thread cool. Strong work with the rehab.
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04-08-2014, 18:01
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie
said Mark Anthony Neal, an African-American studies professor at Duke University. "And it's not that there aren't other examples of such policing among other racial and ethnic groups. But, given the fraught relationship between black identity and culture and what some Americans might perceive as 'normal,' it strikes a particularly dissonant chord among some blacks."]
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Hmm I seem to remember a certain group of professors at Duke having a problem with the normal perception of innocent until proven guilty back in 2006
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04-09-2014, 06:26
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Maybe it's official and I'm becoming a seriously grumpy old man...but isn't it still an all volunteer Army? If they don't like the rules, stay the f%&K home!
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04-28-2014, 21:03
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Can somebody explain the whole "no more than 4 below the elbow or knee, can't be bigger than your hand" thing? Does that only apply to those grandfathered in, or does it also apply to new recruits enlisting after it fully takes effect?
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04-29-2014, 07:19
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Frankly, I am glad I am retired. All of the social experimentation in the military is too much now. Everyone that wants to find something offensive does so due to race, gender, sexuality or religion. There is no place for this in the military. There is also no place in the military for individuals. If people do not like the rules they can get the fuck out.
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