06-20-2013, 19:16
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Chelsea Clinton Laments: My Grandmother Did Not Have Access to Planned Parenthood
Chelsea Clinton Laments: My Grandmother Did Not Have Access to Planned Parenthood
New York, NY (CFAM) — From the stage at the recent Women Deliver conference, former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s daughter Chelsea revealed that her much-admired maternal grandmother was the child of unwed teenage parents who “did not have access to services that are so crucial that Planned Parenthood helps provide.”
Chelsea’s grandmother was born of an unintended pregnancy. And new research shows that her family is not alone in treasuring a person who – if Planned Parenthood had been successful – would not have been born.
Are these people professionally stupid or what?
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06-20-2013, 19:22
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Damn, I'd of paid for that abortion.....
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06-20-2013, 20:35
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Chelsea Clinton Laments: My Grandmother Did Not Have Access to Planned Parenthood
New York, NY (CFAM) — From the stage at the recent Women Deliver conference, former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s daughter Chelsea revealed that her much-admired maternal grandmother was the child of unwed teenage parents who “did not have access to services that are so crucial that Planned Parenthood helps provide.”
Chelsea’s grandmother was born of an unintended pregnancy. And new research shows that her family is not alone in treasuring a person who – if Planned Parenthood had been successful – would not have been born.
Are these people professionally stupid or what?
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06-20-2013, 21:09
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Chelsea Clinton Laments: My Grandmother Did Not Have Access to Planned Parenthood
New York, NY (CFAM) — From the stage at the recent Women Deliver conference, former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s daughter Chelsea revealed that her much-admired maternal grandmother was the child of unwed teenage parents who “did not have access to services that are so crucial that Planned Parenthood helps provide.”
Chelsea’s grandmother was born of an unintended pregnancy. And new research shows that her family is not alone in treasuring a person who – if Planned Parenthood had been successful – would not have been born.
Are these people professionally stupid or what?
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06-20-2013, 22:15
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They breed more than most of us as they are unhindered by having to go to work.....
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06-21-2013, 06:20
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A lot of people agree Chelsea Clinton's grandmother should have had an abortion.
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06-21-2013, 06:39
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Both grandmothers.
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06-21-2013, 07:15
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I think one could argue that a form of Planned Parenthood did exist back then and ha nearly always been around - it was some form of individual family or local community efforts (ala Ciderhouse Rules) and not a recognized 501(C)(3) organization, and varied greatly in its concept and effectiveness in providing information and 'medical' services depending upon location, personal and familial beliefs, educational levels, familial ties, social status, wealth, etc.
In the mid-50's when my parents were told that, for medical reasons, having another child would be an extremely high risk for both the child and my mother, our family doctor secretly performed a vasectomy and could have been criminally charged or lost his license to practice medicine as it was illegal at that time. When my wife and I were confronted with a similar issue in the mid-80's, it was a simple matter to schedule the procedure with our family practice physician at Martin Army Hospital.
Personally, I am thankful our children have access to better information and a greater choice in such personal matters, even if we don't always agree with their choices.
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06-21-2013, 08:00
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I think one could argue that a form of Planned Parenthood did exist back then and ha nearly always been around - it was some form of individual family or local community efforts (ala Ciderhouse Rules) and not a recognized 501(C)(3) organization, and varied greatly in its concept and effectiveness in providing information and 'medical' services depending upon location, personal and familial beliefs, educational levels, familial ties, social status, wealth, etc.
In the mid-50's when my parents were told that, for medical reasons, having another child would be an extremely high risk for both the child and my mother, our family doctor secretly performed a vasectomy and could have been criminally charged or lost his license to practice medicine as it was illegal at that time. When my wife and I were confronted with a similar issue in the mid-80's, it was a simple matter to schedule the procedure with our family practice physician at Martin Army Hospital.
Personally, I am thankful our children have access to better information and a greater choice in such personal matters, even if we don't always agree with their choices.
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Huge difference between a vasectomy and skewering a ready-to-birth, live baby's head to corkscrew it out of a womb, or abortion pills for girls still too young to drive.
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06-21-2013, 08:18
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06-21-2013, 08:22
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Regardless of where you stand on the abortion issue, if Conservatives make reversing a 1973 SCOTUS decision a front burner issue we will continue to alienate a portion of the population who might otherwise vote with us. The Progressives have always had the end game in sight.
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06-21-2013, 08:40
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Regardless of where you stand on the abortion issue, if Conservatives make reversing a 1973 SCOTUS decision a front burner issue we will continue to alienate a portion of the population who might otherwise vote with us. The Progressives have always had the end game in sight.
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Agreed,,
For arguments sake...
Liberals want the poor and disenfranchised to get abortions?? Can we say "white supremacy"??
Conservatives don't want free birth control,, "let them breed to their constituents delight..."
If you try to disengage the religious argument,
Who benefits from birth control??
Who benefits from lack of birth control??
Jump forward 100-200 years,, maybe only 15 years??
Will China's "one child to a family" law sound repressive or smart..
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06-21-2013, 17:05
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Regardless of where you stand on the abortion issue, if Conservatives make reversing a 1973 SCOTUS decision a front burner issue we will continue to alienate a portion of the population who might otherwise vote with us. The Progressives have always had the end game in sight.
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Prolifers have been pretty good at using the federalist approach to choke abortion. Time had a front page article whining about that a few months ago.
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06-21-2013, 17:24
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Prolifers have been pretty good at using the federalist approach to choke abortion. Time had a front page article whining about that a few months ago.
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lol If I'm a prolifer, does that make my opponents prodeathers?
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06-21-2013, 20:12
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They breed more than most of us as they are unhindered by having to go to work.....
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I don't know about you, but I make room for it even with a heavy work load.
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