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Old 04-17-2012, 07:03   #1
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Obama Government regulate oil - National Socialism

If National Socialism is defined by a direct partnership link between government and business. Then most of America is far down that road.

One example is American Traffic Solutions, located at 7681 E. Gray Road in Scottsdale, AZ 85260 . Their business model is based on selling to cities and towns cameras, under the guise of "Public Safety". These cameras are set up all over NJ. They are now a vital revenue source for municipalities.
American Traffic solutions receive 33% of all income derived from validated summons, traffic, or other activity.
If for instance you almost, but do not stop and roll through a turn right on red, that is a $143.00 fine, if and only if you do not contest it. If you contest it, the fine in NJ jumps to $475.00, should you lose the case. The incentive is to pay; as a result, government has impeded your right to question it.

And another nail in being contemplated
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...est=latestnews
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:19   #2
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They had that in NC but state law says 100% of such fines go to the school system.

Since nothing remained for the company and local government to make a buck the cameras were removed.

PS - That picture of the President at the fox news site sure looks like El Duce.
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:51   #3
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Red light cameras are a crock - as a matter of public safety - they are a pure money grab - if it really was merely a safety issue then just change the timing of the lights - a couple of seconds will make the same or similar difference as those cameras.

Full disclosure...I have not been stung by a red light camera - yet - but did almost get rear-ended because I was unwilling to push a yellow and risk only making it halfway through an intersection and getting stung for > $150.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:06   #4
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PS - That picture of the President at the fox news site sure looks like El Duce.
Yup, he's got that chin-forward, "behold my lovely visage" thing down pat. Well-groomed for the role.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:10   #5
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:45   #6
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preserving free markets is socialism?

to prevent the manipulation of free markets is about as capitalistic as you can get. IMHO .
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:49   #7
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If National Socialism is defined by a direct partnership link between government and business. Then most of America is far down that road.

One example is American Traffic Solutions, located at 7681 E. Gray Road in Scottsdale, AZ 85260 . Their business model is based on selling to cities and towns cameras, under the guise of "Public Safety". These cameras are set up all over NJ. They are now a vital revenue source for municipalities.
American Traffic solutions receive 33% of all income derived from validated summons, traffic, or other activity.
If for instance you almost, but do not stop and roll through a turn right on red, that is a $143.00 fine, if and only if you do not contest it. If you contest it, the fine in NJ jumps to $475.00, should you lose the case. The incentive is to pay; as a result, government has impeded your right to question it.

And another nail in being contemplated
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...est=latestnews
They were set up on the highway here for a year or two and the people got sick of them. Highway patrol said they would slow traffic and stop fatalities, didn't happen.

What did stop or lessen the fatalities was taking cars from illegals, no drivers license, no insurance, no problem. The Phoenix cops were not even allowed to arrest the illegals. That ended a few years ago when Phoenix stopped being an illegal alien "sanctuary city". Former mayor phil gordon has killed more cops than most bad guys.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:02   #8
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With regards to the attempt to further regulate commodities...notice that they are looking to increase the penalties for an already illegal activity and increase the funding to monitor exchange activities.

Note to Mr. Obama:

fungible - a commodity that is freely interchangeable with another in satisfying an obligation.

I guess Dear Leader wants to ignore the speculators betting that the price of oil goes down?
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Old 04-17-2012, 22:13   #9
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How exactly does he propose to regulate trading in other nations' jurisdiction?
Try to control capital, and it will flee.

Politicians (in any country) never seem to learn this lesson.
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