10-18-2011, 10:42
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wor...-1226169281540
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A LESBIAN couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty, so that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.
The couple's supporters say the Hormone Blocking Therapy has only minor side effects and is appropriate for a child who is unsure of his gender.
"This is definitely a changing landscape for transgender youth," said Joel Baum, director of education and training for Gender Spectrum, a California-based non-profit group. "This is about giving kids and their families the opportunity to make the right decision."
But critics of the treatment say 11-year-olds are not old enough to make life-altering decisions about changing their gender, and parents should not be encouraging them.
"This is child abuse. It's like performing liposuction on an anorexic child," said Dr Paul McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.
"It is a disorder of the mind. Not a disorder of the body. Dealing with it in this way is not dealing with the problem that truly exists. We shouldn't be mucking around with nature. We can't assume what the outcome will be," Professor McHugh said.
Dr Manny Alvarez, senior managing health editor of FOXNews.com, said the hormone blockers also may pose a medical risk.
"Potential long-term effects can include other abnormalities of hormones, vascular complications and even potential cancer. I think that if this child - as he finishes his puberty and teenage years - decides to undergo a transgender procedure, then there are proper channels to do so," Dr Alvarez said.
"But to do it at the age of 11, to me, could be potentially dangerous to the health of this child," he said.
Tommy's parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, told CNN they support their child and feel this is the best way for him to find an answer to a question he has been asking all his life.
They say Tommy - whom they now call Tammy -- began taking GnRH inhibitors over the summer to give him more time to explore the female gender identity with which he associates.
Tommy began saying he was a girl when he was three years old, his parents said. He was learning sign language due to a speech impediment, and one of the first things he told his mothers was, "I am a girl."
The child's parents also said Tommy threatened to mutilate his genitals when he was seven, and psychiatrists diagnosed a gender identity disorder. One year later, he began transitioning to Tammy.
After much deliberation with family and therapists, the child began taking hormone blockers a few months ago. The medication, which must be changed once a year, was implanted in the boy's upper left arm.
Tommy will continue the treatment until he turns 14 or 15, at which point he will be taken off the blockers and pursue the gender he feels is the right one.
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So, presuming people are born the way they are and it isnt a matter of "choice" why the need for drugs to allow a "choice" to be made?
Leave it to a couple people pushing their agenda to ruin a child's life to make a point...
Honestly this story made me sick to my stomach last night so badly that I couldnt finish my beer...thats some serious nausea.
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10-18-2011, 10:52
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A new world order is emerging......
This is what happens when perversions take over.
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10-18-2011, 11:23
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What legal ramifications are available to Child Health Services?.....
"This is child abuse. It's like performing liposuction on an anorexic child," said Dr Paul McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.
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10-18-2011, 11:25
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This makes me sick. What is this world coming to?
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10-18-2011, 11:28
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At three years old one of mine was telling me she was a cat. That didnt make her a cat. It made her three years old. Now if she were raised by two cats I would probably add confused in addition to being three years old to the list of explainations. Eleven is far too young to make decisions like this. I feel sorry for the kid.
Just my .02 cents.
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10-18-2011, 12:21
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10-18-2011, 13:36
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I'm just thinking out loud but I believe there's a reason Nature decided not to allow LESBIAN's the ability to procreate......
And now "Man" has decided to upset that balance.
What would Charles say?
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10-18-2011, 13:52
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The change from viewing homosexuality as a mental illness to normal varation of behavior wasn't rooted in scientific study.
The change was due to political pressure.
Not saying it is or isn't.
Just saying that the change was a political decision, not a scientific one.
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10-18-2011, 13:55
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Originally Posted by Stingray
At three years old one of mine was telling me she was a cat. That didnt make her a cat. It made her three years old. Now if she were raised by two cats I would probably add confused in addition to being three years old to the list of explainations. Eleven is far too young to make decisions like this. I feel sorry for the kid.
Just my .02 cents.
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Exactly. That kid has probably heard "man-bashing" by lesbians his whole short life, to the point that he thinks the only option is to not be a man himself. Sick.
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10-18-2011, 13:56
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He would say that they will weed themselves out, as in anything in life. Off topic, gays/lesbians should not be allowed to have surrogates or in vitro. It wasn't intended. That being said, if a child is going to be thrown into a trash can in China, or a needy child is in the U.S., that is fine. Back on topic, this is wrong for so many ways. The problem is that hardcore liberals/uneducated people looking for something to argue (i.e. occupy wall street) are going to support this, and in 50 years we are going to be transforming 3 year old into dogs if that's what they want to be. This has to end now.
Are you truly ruining a child's life? Well, if this truly is not a "choice" then people have assumed that they are trapped in the wrong sex' body for thousands of years. Or maybe they just weren't exposed to all this liberal junk that rots your brain and tells you to go against what is right. Maybe they didn't see Chaz Bono on Dancing With the Stars, and see everyone applauding him/her on how "brave" he is for having a sex change. Granted he is an adult, but it's filth and should not be encouraged.
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10-18-2011, 14:03
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Anyone seeking attention for this, and clearly pushing an agenda raises serious concerns.
How much brainwashing/conditioning has been done throughout the child's life?
Did the "mothers" hear the boy say he was a girl (an earnest question of gender identity that is developmentally apprpriate at 3 years of age) and reward him for the statement?
He could have been programmed through rewards/punishments given for certain behaviors to think his gender was wrong from an early age.
I would like to think most parents facing an issue such as this would want it to remain private.
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10-18-2011, 14:13
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Serious child abuse here, totally sickening
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10-18-2011, 14:39
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This is disgusting child abuse.
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10-18-2011, 15:30
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Honestly this story made me sick to my stomach last night so badly that I couldnt finish my beer...thats some serious nausea.
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10-18-2011, 15:41
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This is what when Paraphilias become the norm.
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