Obama Assails Arizona Immigration Law

ArmyStrong · 04-23-2010, 23:59

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...migration-law/

Apr. 23: Supporters of the illegal immigration enforcement law rallied at the state Capitol in Phoenix.

In an unusual White House attack on state legislation, President Barack Obama harshly criticized an Arizona measure to crack down on illegal immigration and made clear Friday that he is looking for an election-year fight over the volatile issue.

Hours later, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed the nation's toughest immigration law, making illegal immigration a state crime and requiring police to question people about their immigration status if officers suspect they are in the U.S. illegally.

Brewer, a Republican, said the state action was forced by Washington's failure to secure the U.S. borders and solve the nation's thorny illegal immigration problem. "Decades of inaction and misguided policy have created a dangerous and unacceptable situation," she said.

The president said it was the state that was "misguided" and that the Arizona measure would "undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans."

Obama said he instructed the Justice Department to "examine the civil rights and other implications" of the new law. Justice officials said they were considering their options, and it wasn't clear Friday what they might do. Regardless, the law seemed certain to be challenged in court by opponents.

Apr. 23: Standing in front law enforcement officers, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer talks about signing the immigration bill in Phoenix.
Among the constitutional questions raised by the law, according to current and former government officials and legal experts, are provisions that may violate protections against unreasonable searches, for example, by asking police to stop people solely to prove their immigration status.

Arizona and other states allow police to check immigration status if a person is under investigation for another crime.

The president's comments, delivered during a Rose Garden naturalization ceremony for members of the armed forces, was a forceful sign that Obama planned to push the immigration issue before the November elections, responding to frustration among Hispanic voters and their advocates over inaction.

**The Reaper** · 04-24-2010, 07:21

Ahh, yes.

The Federal government, criticizing the state government for doing the job the Feds should be doing.

Permanently secure the borders, Mr. President. Then we can talk immigration policy.

TR

abc_123 · 04-24-2010, 08:15

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

Ahh, yes.

The Federal government, criticizing the state government for doing the job the Feds should be doing.

Permanently secure the borders, Mr. President. Then we can talk immigration policy.

TR

TR... but with the Federal government so busy with issues previously left to the states, local governments, and individuals ...it's good to see Arizona stepping up to the plate and helping out.

**Team Sergeant** · 04-24-2010, 18:41

What's mexico going to do, start a border war?

I'm thinking the worse they can do is stop all drug shipments.
(That would hurt a whole lot of left-wing wackos or put them in withdrawal.)

Defender968 · 04-24-2010, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

What's mexico going to do, start a border war?

I'm thinking the worse they can do is stop all drug shipments.
(That would hurt a whole lot of left-wing wackos or put them in withdrawal.)

I was thinking the same thing, what are they going to do stop accepting our cash, not allow their citizens to illegally enter our country....or maybe they'll write us a really nasty letter please....I mean I like Calderon but come on really....what are they going to do

GratefulCitizen · 04-24-2010, 19:50

Among other things, what the law does:

A.R.S 13-1509

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13-1509. Trespassing by illegal aliens; assessment; exception; classification
A. IN ADDITION TO ANY VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW, A PERSON IS GUILTY OF TRESPASSING IF THE PERSON IS BOTH:
1. PRESENT ON ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE LAND IN THIS STATE.
2. IN VIOLATION OF 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1304(e) OR 1306(a).
<snip>
G. A VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION IS A CLASS 1 MISDEMEANOR, EXCEPT THAT A VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION IS:
1. A CLASS 3 FELONY IF THE PERSON VIOLATES THIS SECTION WHILE IN POSSESSION OF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
(a) A DANGEROUS DRUG AS DEFINED IN SECTION 13-3401.
(b) PRECURSOR CHEMICALS THAT ARE USED IN THE MANUFACTURING OF METHAMPHETAMINE IN VIOLATION OF SECTION 13-3404.01.
(c) A DEADLY WEAPON OR A DANGEROUS INSTRUMENT, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 13-105. (d) PROPERTY THAT IS USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMMITTING AN ACT OF TERRORISM AS PRESCRIBED IN SECTION 13-2308.01.
2. A CLASS 4 FELONY IF THE PERSON EITHER:
(a) IS CONVICTED OF A SECOND OR SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION.
(b) WITHIN SIXTY MONTHS BEFORE THE VIOLATION, HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE UNITED STATES PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1229a OR HAS ACCEPTED A VOLUNTARY REMOVAL FROM THE UNITED STATES PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1229c.

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

So at minimum, it's a class 1 misdemeanor.
Combine this with A.R.S. 13-3884 and it could get interesting here in Arizona.
(Disclaimer: this should not be construed as a recommendation!)

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13-3884. Arrest by private person
A private person may make an arrest:
1. When the person to be arrested has in his presence committed a misdemeanor amounting to a breach of the peace, or a felony.
2. When a felony has been in fact committed and he has reasonable ground to believe that the person to be arrested has committed it.

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatD...13&DocType=ARS

longrange1947 · 04-24-2010, 20:47

I like the way the Feds figure it is alright to order you to have health insurance, but it is wrong to have to carry ID.

Smokin Joe · 04-24-2010, 20:54

All the law does is allow officers to enforce laws that are already on the books.

Washington is just pissed because they are too gutless to do what we are willing to do ourselves. I wonder how Obama feels having a Governor step to the plate because he is unwilling to?

We can soon carry concealed without a permit and we now protect our own borders.... Oh and did I mention we are a Class III state too. So, who is moving here?

LarryW · 04-25-2010, 05:45

Is this law an extension of the ICE 287(g) Program AZ is already a signatory to? Sounds like it could be. Doubt if BHO will alienate himself by filing against the AZ law, at least not right now. Down the pike, however, standby for the DHS to change the ICE 287(g) MOAs, and then the AG file some sort of motion against the communities (not the states) who supported the ICE 287(g) Program. Slipping friends the shank in the prison yard...it's the Chicago way.

kgoerz · 04-25-2010, 06:29

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Is this new rule saying Police can stop anyone they want without PC? They just have to think the person they are detaining is illegal? Then ask them for ID. Then run their names thru the data base?

Gypsy · 04-25-2010, 06:32

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Originally Posted by ArmyStrong

In an unusual White House attack on state legislation, President Barack Obama harshly criticized an Arizona measure to crack down on illegal immigration and made clear Friday that he is looking for an election-year fight over the volatile issue.

Oh, so are we Mr. President...so are we.

**Ambush Master** · 04-25-2010, 07:06

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Originally Posted by Smokin Joe

We can soon carry concealed without a weapon

SJ,
Please explain!?!?!

levinj · 04-25-2010, 07:48

Kgoerz,

I'm not sure how it works in Arizona, but that's currently the case in Texas. We can be detained for not having an ID on us, and I've been stopped a number of times just to check to see if I'm carrying mine.

**Team Sergeant** · 04-25-2010, 08:06

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Originally Posted by NORMAL550GIRL

Can't believe the POTUS doesn't get that we're all tired of it. If this isn't a clear message to him that I don't know what would be.

Most socialists do not think like we do.

Goggles Pizano · 04-25-2010, 08:14

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Originally Posted by levinj

Kgoerz,

I'm not sure how it works in Arizona, but that's currently the case in Texas. We can be detained for not having an ID on us, and I've been stopped a number of times just to check to see if I'm carrying mine.

Police officers already have the right to detain in an effort to identify someone. To do so still requires resonable suspicion. Once identified if there is no probable cause for arrest for any crime then the officer is required to set that someone free immediately. This is not new.