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Old 12-13-2010, 12:31   #1
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America's Third War: Fighting Drug Cartels in Guatemala

Here a war...there a war...

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America's Third War: Fighting Drug Cartels in Guatemala
Fox, 13 Dec 2010

El Mas Loco (“The Craziest One”), the head of La Familia drug cartel, died in a hail of gunfire with Mexican authorities.

While Mexico touts the killing as another drug kingpin taken care of, Guatemala, Mexico’s neighbor to the south, is worried about what this success might mean for its own safety. The country fears that the cartels will move south across a porous border using Guatemala as a new base for their operations.

The murder rate in Guatemala is already double that of Mexico, where more than 10,000 drug-related murders have taken place this year.

Now there is evidence that one of Mexico’s most vicious cartels, the Zetas, are setting up bases in Guatemala as they come under increasing pressure from Felipe Calderon’s government. The Zetas have set up training camps and are trying to intimidate Guatemalan cartels. So far they’ve forced at least one Guatemalan drug family to leave the country.

“When you have drug traffickers afraid of other drug traffickers, you know its getting pretty bad,” U.S. Ambassador Stephen McFarland told Fox News at the U.S. Embassy in Guatemala City.

Earlier this year one of the cartels sent a message to Guatemalans by leaving several decapitated heads on the steps of Parliament.

The Zetas are in a vicious war with Mexico’s Gulf Cartel and are trying to cut out the middle man as they fights for trafficking routes.

Guatemala has long served as one of the main transit points for cocaine into the U.S. The drug arrives by sea from Colombia and Ecuador and then travels by land through Mexico into America. Last year, between 285 and 350 metric tons of cocaine transited Guatemala.

“Just about all of the drugs going through Mexico into the United States go through Guatemala,” McFarland explained.

But the $13- to $25-billion drug trade amounts to more money than the combined defense budgets of all the Latin American countries.

So how do the cartels get their drugs to the U.S.?

For one, they build small semi-submersible submarines in the triple canopy jungles of South America. The crafts can carry between 4 and 10 metric tons of cocaine on board, a payload worth approximately $100 million. Each with a four man crew, the homemade subs can travel up to 4,000 miles without refueling. They cost about $500,000 apiece for the cartel to build.

For nearly more than 5 years, the Guatemalan and U.S. militaries have seen a surge of such subs and have been able to stop some of them.

In October 2009, Guatemalan special forces caught a submarine and seized the 5 tons of cocaine on board.

These soldiers are trained by U.S. Navy Seals, but U,S, Special Forces are also training a Guatemalan special force tactical strike team. The military has donated a number of UH-2 helicopters to help with cartel raids.

Fox news was able to visit the base in the Pacific where this training takes place.

Soldiers who took part in the October operation say those they arrested lived in a confined area so small that the occupants could stand or sit but never lie down. These were common conditions, they said.

There are “no heads, and no beds,” one U.S. counter-narcotics official who has experience intercepting these subs laughed. “And the crew lives on Red Bull and spam.”

Crews dump the submersibles off the Pacific coasts of Guatemala and Mexico and transfer the cocaine bundles to waiting ships. These ships speed off to the unguarded coastlines and then take overland routes toward the U.S. border. There, one kilogram of cocaine sells for between $17,000 and $32,000.

“There is a growing reef of these semi-submersibles off the coast of Mexico,” another U.S. official said.

The official is one of many who track the drug movements and shares intelligence at a joint interagency task force center known as JIATF-S based in Key West. At JIATF-S, members of the U.S. military, the Drug Enforcement Agency, Customs and Border Patrol and the Coast Guard work with representatives of most Latin American countries.

On July 27, 2009 JIATF-S intercepted a semi-submersible 300 miles off the coast of Colombia. A year earlier, Congress passed the Drug Trafficking Interdiction Act that essentially makes it an automatic felony for anyone caught onboard these unregistered vessels. The law served as recognition that there is no other use for these homemade subs than for smuggling contraband.

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In Guatemala, the U.S. embassy and the United States Agency for International Development have helped the government set up a number of 24-hour courts to help deal with the large number of cases emanating from drug cartel violence.

These courts are especially busy with the high rate of murders and kidnappings associated with drug cartel gangs.

The court in downtown Guatemala City looks like a Stop and Shop or 7-11 but in the basement of a high-rise courthouse.

The prisoners are held in a group cell in a lock up in the basement garage. They catcall to passersby. When their names are called, they are escorted to what almost looks like a drive-thru window to pick up their police paperwork and charges. A few steps from there, they wait to be assigned a public defender, while the judge sits in an all-glass courtroom just steps away.

The U.S. State Department has also set up a model police precinct in one of Guatemala City’s most crowded and violent suburbs, Villa Nueva, where conviction rates are high and community outreach has led to a very successful tip hotline.

But when a Fox team visited Guatemala’s northern border at El Carmen, the main pedestrian crossing in Guatemala’s southwest, the complexity of helping the government tackle its cartel and border problem became apparent.

Guatemala has a 577-mile long border with Mexico. It has eight official crossing points and 1,200 blind crossings.

Immigration Minister Enrique Degenhart, an affable English-speaking former businessman who was educated at Boston College, traveled with our Fox team to show us the border.

We landed at a military base in a banana grove not far from where the Zetas carried out a brazen prison break earlier in the week, freeing a cartel leader who had murdered a well-known soccer star. Eleven suspects, members of the Zeta cartel, were subsequently arrested and as a result, the minister had to travel with an armed escort and a bodyguard as he showed us the border.

“We are tired of being used. We are tired of organized crime using Guatemala as a transit point for jumping into Mexico and into the U.S.,” Degenhart said.

At the El Carmen crossing, there was chaos. A constant stream of pedestrians simply rolled up their pant legs and waded through the river - a five minute walk from the Guatemalan side of the border into Mexico. Upriver, dozens of truck tire rafts waited to ferry illegal migrants and their contraband across the river - a two minute ride. Authorities are unable to stop the flow.

“Our country is being used as a pipeline or bridge for drugs going into the U.S.,” Degenhart explained.

He walked us toward the bridge that crosses the river to Mexico and pointed out row upon row of trinket sellers and shops who he said were likely front companies for those selling drugs and weapons.

“They probably don’t live off of selling tortillas and rice and beans,” Degenhart told the visiting Fox team.

Not a single policeman was visible. The authorities had recently cut down a series of zip lines that the locals use to cross the river with contraband when the river is too high. On this day, they simply walked.

While we were there, his officers received word that the Zetas had threatened to kidnap members of his team in retaliation, forcing us to cut our visit short.

The U.S. is trying to help Guatemala begin to secure its border with Mexico by investing in new border crossings where the Guatemalan authorities can start checking vehicles. The new border crossing would cost about $7 million.

U.S. officials who specialize in counter-narcotics worry that Al Qaeda will soon realize the porous nature of the Central American-U.S. corridor. They suggest that America’s border problems don’t end at border cities like El Paso and Brownsville, Texas. They say border problem begins in Colombia and must be tackled in Guatemala, where it is easier to intercept the drugs and people before they make their way too far north.

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Old 12-13-2010, 13:55   #2
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We ignore Latin America at our peril. The US never really learns that lesson.
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Old 12-13-2010, 14:34   #3
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We ignore Latin America at our peril. The US never really learns that lesson.
Especially the border. That last line about Al Qaeda; might be a dollar short and a dollar late on that, already...
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Mexican drug cartels draws Guatemalan army to jungles

I suppose I should begin studying Spanish after all.


Mexican drug cartels draws Guatemalan army to jungles where it fought civil war

By William Booth and Nick Miroff
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, February 9, 2011; 11:02 PM

IN COBAN, GUATEMALA The once-fearsome Guatemalan army has returned to the jungles where it battled Marxist guerrillas a generation ago, this time to hunt shadowy Mexican drug traffickers fighting for control of strategic smuggling routes to the United States.

So serious is the perceived threat to national security that Guatemalan President Alvaro Colom has extended "a state of siege" and martial law in his country's Alta Verapaz province, where authorities say the soldiers are beating back an invasion by the Mexican cartel known as the Zetas.

Colom plans to extend troop deployments to other conflict zones in the country, officials say, militarizing the drug war here and reviving the Guatemalan army after 36 years of civil war, decades of human rights abuses and a still-unfinished peace process.

The military operations are the clearest sign yet that as Mexico's wealthy drug mafias spread into Central America, wary but weak governments here are preparing to follow Mexican President Felipe Calderon's U.S.-backed decision to turn the armed forces against the cartels. That strategy has failed to slow the violence in Mexico, which has left more than 34,000 dead in four years.

The move is also likely to renew calls for more U.S. anti-narcotics aid beyond the $250 million allocated to Central America since 2007 as part of the $1.8 billion Merida Initiative, which has mostly targeted Mexico.

Last month, Colom made a remarkable call for a unified counternarcotics force that would set aside nationalist rivalries to combine soldiers from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras to retake territory from the expanding crime syndicates.

The Guatemalan president is also asking for help - more money, training, equipment and intelligence - from Mexico and the United States. The U.S. government recently moved helicopters from Colombia to Guatemala to expand operations by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

In the past year, DEA operatives working in Guatemala have sharply curtailed narcotics shipments into the region by air, as armed U.S. agents riding in Huey helicopters have chased down and ambushed smugglers when they attempt to land at clandestine airstrips. The number of known drug shipments arriving in Guatemala by light aircraft dropped from more than 50 to five or six in 2010, according to a U.S. official.

But because of that success, land routes through Guatemala have become even more critical to controlling the flow of narcotics, specifically shipments of South American cocaine bound for the United States, the world's biggest consumer of illegal drugs. The city of Coban and the surrounding Alta Verapaz region sit at the crossroads of many of those smuggling corridors.

U.S. officials say feeble institutions and venal governments make Central America particularly vulnerable to the cartels' wealth and power. In recent years, two of Guatemala's former national police directors have been arrested on corruption charges, along with former president Alfonso Portillo, now on trial facing allegations that he embezzled $15 million.
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Before soldiers arrived in Coban in December, the people of this farming town of 80,000 say they were powerless to confront the rapacious outsiders who rode through the streets in shiny new SUVs, brandishing automatic weapons and looking to recruit local talent with fat wads of dollar bills, especially former Guatemalan special-forces soldiers.

"The people here were too scared to do anything," said Col. Marco Tulio Vasquez Sanchez, commander of the 300 troops now patrolling Coban and the surrounding area.

At his desk in the military barracks, the colonel opened his laptop and played a video that soldiers confiscated at a farm allegedly abandoned by retreating Zeta forces in December. The disc shows a Sept. 15 Mexican Independence Day celebration at the local airstrip, where beefy men wearing white cowboy hats with pistols on their hips cheer horse races from the backs of their pickup trucks. The soundtrack is a bouncy Mexican ballad known as a "narcocorrido."

"That's the one they call 'El W,' " the colonel said, zooming in on a mustachioed figure in dark aviator glasses. "I'm still hunting for him."

Military commanders say they have seized dozens of vehicles, many of them stolen from Mexico, along with five airplanes and more than 100 weapons, including grenade launchers and machine guns.

Many of the arms were recovered at a farm on the outskirts of Coban, where they had been hastily buried in grain sacks beneath towering palms and plants heavy with coffee beans.

In a muddy grave behind the farmhouse, troops unearthed the body of a man kidnapped near Guatemala City.

According to the military, the farm belonged to Otoniel Turcios, a suspected Guatemalan drug smuggler who fled to Belize, where he was arrested in October. He was then handed over to DEA agents and flown to New York, where he is charged with conspiracy to import and distribute narcotics.

U.S. law enforcement agents say Turcios and other alleged local drug bosses, including Walter Overdick, known as "El Tigre," may have brought the Zetas into the country as partners or protectors but were quickly muscled aside.

"They invited the Zetas to the party, and the Zetas decided to take over," said a senior U.S. law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of his work in the region and security policies.

A mysterious text message purportedly sent by the Zetas to local journalists in late December was read aloud on radio stations in Guatemala. The message accused the president of taking millions in bribes but failing to keep his promises.

"A war will begin in this country, in shopping centers, schools, police stations," the announcement went.

Unlike in Mexico, where cartel gunmen stage brazen assaults on government officials and security forces, the criminals in Coban have not followed through on the threats of attack. Instead, since the military's arrival, the Mexican traffickers here have been mostly ghosts, the subject of sightings, rumors and anonymous Internet postings but very few arrests.

None of the 21 suspects taken into custody since December in Coban is a Mexican national, and authorities said the Zetas commanders have probably slipped back into Mexico or relocated to more lawless parts of Guatemala.

"This is just a slight disruption for them," said one U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing security protocols. He estimated that 70 percent of Mexico's 550-mile border with Guatemala is controlled by the Zetas.
Growing presence

Mexican traffickers have been caught in Guatemala, though, including two alleged members of the cartel La Familia arrested Jan. 29. In September, a Zetas commander, Daniel "El Cachetes" ("Cheeks") Perez Rojas, was convicted along with more than a dozen underlings for crimes linked to the massacre of 11 local competitors. And the boss of all bosses, the billionaire Sinaloa drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" ("Shorty") Guzman, was seized in Guatemala in 1999, only to escape in a laundry basket from a Mexican prison two years later.

But the Mexican cartel presence in Guatemala has never been as extensive as it is now, according to Guatemalan officials.

"They say to the families, 'You can sell to us and leave standing up, or you can refuse and go feet first,' " said Oscar Pop, an indigenous leader in the region.

Pop said the return of the soldiers has stirred conflicted feelings among those who suffered during Guatemala's long civil conflict. An estimated 200,000 people were killed in the war, which ended in 1996.

"We need to be strengthening the police, not bringing back the army," he said.

The governor of Alta Verapaz, Jose Adrian Lopez, said he has been surprised that the military presence has been so welcomed, given the army's brutal legacy in the region.

"Now all the local mayors here are asking the government to send troops," he said.

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We ignore Latin America at our peril. The US never really learns that lesson.
We'll take "notice" once one of the cartels kills an American congressman or senator's kid, wife, relative etc.

Besides if busted the cartels where else would impeached presidents get their drugs? (hey Slick Willie!)
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This reply is a little late, but....

Obama won't even protect our own border, why would we expect him to care about Guatemala????
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Oolong or Orange Pekoe?

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Crews dump the submersibles off the Pacific coasts of Guatemala and Mexico and transfer the cocaine bundles to waiting ships. These ships speed off to the unguarded coastlines and then take overland routes toward the U.S. border. There, one kilogram of cocaine sells for between $17,000 and $32,000.


Am I wrong in suggesting we just sink the subs and ships with the drivers in them? I would think that would be incentive to rethink doing such a job, vs going to jail to try again a few months or years later.. Once word got out that we are sinking ships and leaving the drivers in the vehicles to swim 50 + miles back to shore or be shark/crab food, you would think they would reconsider doing this job... I personally would like to see the green light to start offing the Zetas - take no one prisoners... They are quite an evil bunch.

Also Oolong is quite tastey.
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Am I wrong in suggesting we just sink the subs and ships with the drivers in them? I would think that would be incentive to rethink doing such a job, vs going to jail to try again a few months or years later.. Once word got out that we are sinking ships and leaving the drivers in the vehicles to swim 50 + miles back to shore or be shark/crab food, you would think they would reconsider doing this job...

Although it might sound nice. Putting that much dope in the water off Baja would probably FU the marine system.

Can you imagine what the Hump-Backs would do with a bell full of coke?? The 1st time they migrate back to the Northern waters off Hi, they would tell every whale in the Pacific.

Additionally, The bistros in LA would be charging 100K for
  • "Coke-Infused" Abalone Ratatouille
  • Shrimp with a delicate cream Hash Bisque
  • Seared Tuna Smack, dusted with a 20$ bag of Ganga

Not pretty.. The Vegans would be all over us for selective food distribution, claiming their 9th and 15th Amendments have been violated..

This is one area of law enforcement where spiking the ball is good. And it gives the USCG something to do, besides ride their RIBs around the harbor as part of Big Sis's TSA Shadow Army..


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War on Drugs reunion?

U.S. officials who specialize in counter-narcotics worry that Al Qaeda will soon realize the porous nature of the Central American-U.S. corridor. They suggest that America’s border problems don’t end at border cities like El Paso and Brownsville, Texas. They say border problem begins in Colombia and must be tackled in Guatemala, where it is easier to intercept the drugs and people before they make their way too far north.

If Al Qaeda did not know before, they do now! Thank god they let FOX News do all the research


Perhaps the "War on Drugs" will be revived? Or maybe the GWOT will just shift locations....

I do agree we should pay attention to our border to the south!


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Although it might sound nice. Putting that much dope in the water off Baja would probably FU the marine system.

Can you imagine what the Hump-Backs would do with a bell full of coke?? The 1st time they migrate back to the Northern waters off Hi, they would tell every whale in the Pacific.

Additionally, The bistros in LA would be charging 100K for

"Coke-Infused" Abalone Ratatouille
Shrimp with a delicate cream Hash Bisque
Seared Tuna Smack, dusted with a 20$ bag of Ganga

Not pretty.. The Vegans would be all over us for selective food distribution, claiming their 9th and 15th Amendments have been violated..

This is one area of law enforcement where spiking the ball is good. And it gives the USCG something to do, besides ride their RIBs around the harbor as part of Big Sis's TSA Shadow Army..


Understood... Well if I may pose this thought. We remove any and call cargo, then sink the ship with the driver on board...
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U.S. officials who specialize in counter-narcotics worry that Al Qaeda will soon realize the porous nature of the Central American-U.S. corridor. They suggest that America’s border problems don’t end at border cities like El Paso and Brownsville, Texas. They say border problem begins in Colombia and must be tackled in Guatemala, where it is easier to intercept the drugs and people before they make their way too far north.

If Al Qaeda did not know before, they do now! Thank god they let FOX News do all the research


Perhaps the "War on Drugs" will be revived? Or maybe the GWOT will just shift locations....

I do agree we should pay attention to our border to the south!


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