Buying an AR

Huff9337 · 11-20-2010, 10:26

I am thinking about buying an AR. I have not kept up with the market. My last experenience was with the M16A2. So you know how far behind I am. I should probuley do some research, but want to ask. I do not want a 5.56, But do not know if I want a 6.8 or 308. Any help or sujestions would be appreciated.

**The Reaper** · 11-20-2010, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Huff9337

I am thinking about buying an AR. I have not kept up with the market. My last experenience was with the M16A2. So you know how far behind I am. I should probuley do some research, but want to ask. I do not want a 5.56, But do not know if I want a 6.8 or 308. Any help or sujestions would be appreciated.

How much searching and reading have you done here first?

Have you read the sticky at the top of this forum?

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=12917

TR

JJ_BPK · 11-20-2010, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Huff9337

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

I use the AR15.com,, AR15 sub-fora as a reading point.

Those guys are not mil-spec but they live & breath anything CIVILIAN AR-xx related.

Additionally there are several sub-sub-fora specifically for the commercial vendors. Mark LaRue actually answers questions about his products..

There is a sub-sub-fora for just about all the various breeds.

My view is the 6.5 - 6.8 conundrum is far from resolved. The ammo is still to expensive, unless you reload. But either make good mid range deer rifles.

Personally, I would like to see more effort in developing a 35 cal round, something like the old 35 Rem or 358 Win that would operate using the 5.56 length action AND magazine. It would be a good CQB round, similar to the Ruski VSS 9x39..

My $00.0002

**Ambush Master** · 11-20-2010, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Huff9337

I am thinking about buying an AR. I have not kept up with the market. My last experenience was with the M16A2. So you know how far behind I am. I should probuley do some research, but want to ask. I do not want a 5.56, But do not know if I want a 6.8 or 308. Any help or sujestions would be appreciated.

Take a look at the LaRue .308!! They're up in Leander, Texas!!

Huff9337 · 11-20-2010, 11:05

Thanks Reaper When back and started the stickie. when finished will then ask questions.

Gene Econ · 11-20-2010, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Huff9337

I am thinking about buying an AR. I have not kept up with the market. My last experenience was with the M16A2. So you know how far behind I am. I should probuley do some research, but want to ask. I do not want a 5.56, But do not know if I want a 6.8 or 308. Any help or sujestions would be appreciated.

H93:

As you read the stickies IAW TRSOP -- you need to do some serious thinking concerning your uses for the AR. Look at it as if you had a distinct requirement for a vehicle of some sort or a specialty tool and now you want to look at features that meet your needs.

Although there are many features one can argue over, I doubt anyone will argue over barrel quality. AR's that are made to mil spec standards are pretty much parts guns so if you don't like a trigger for example, you buy a better trigger and install it yourself using simple tools. Barrels on the other hand will mean something no matter how much one denies their marksmanship ability or purpose.

Get a quality barrel made by a reputable barrel maker or all the high speed parts in the world won't make the rifle shoot consistently well, day in and day out, no matter the conditions. Others can advise barrel makers but Krieger, Lilja, Hart, Shilen, Satern are a few of the better ones.

Gene

C0B2A · 11-20-2010, 17:50

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

I use the AR15.com,, AR15 sub-fora as a reading point.

Those guys are not mil-spec but they live & breath anything CIVILIAN AR-xx related.

ar15.com is the very last place I would recommend for educated reading when it comes to accurate good information on the AR market. That place is filled with a bunch of mall ninja wanna be's.

m4carbine.net is a great place filled with people who know what they are talking about and is closely moderated (like this place) in order to keep the disinformation at a minimum.

6.8 is a great option but unfortunately very few companies offer that as an option, LWRC is one of the best options there as far as I am concerned.. 7.62 for SPR have some of the absolute best companies making them. Check out the Larue OBR.
It all depends on intended use and funds.

HisDisciple · 11-20-2010, 18:33

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Originally Posted by C0B2A

ar15.com is the very last place I would recommend for educated reading when it comes to accurate good information on the AR market. That place is filled with a bunch of mall ninja wanna be's.

m4carbine.net is a great place filled with people who know what they are talking about and is closely moderated (like this place) in order to keep the disinformation at a minimum.
It all depends on intended use and funds.

You couldn't get any more on target.
Funny, because I already sent him a pm with "The Chart" from M4carbine.net and mentioned the 3 main AR style 308s worth their salt.(Besides Knights)

LMT MWS

-This one's great because you don't need to send the barrel into Knights to change barrel. 5R stainless barrel. $2,300 at mil. discount pricing too!
LARUE OBR- Hell of a man, anything he makes is GTG
SCAR-H-It's not a m14, nor an AR just a turkey.

Ramirez · 11-21-2010, 10:51

I like M4C over ARFCOM, but feel both sites could use some manners.

zauber1 · 11-21-2010, 11:09

Would the general consensus of opinion be to BUY or to BUILD if one had a general budget of say $1500.00 US? I am also in the market for a weapon for general purpose usage and may want to go into the 3 gun match in the area (if they have a Senior category).

After having read the stickie at the heading of this category, I wish to retract this inane post and humbly offer my apologize for my lack of SA and my waste of bandwidth. Please Ignore all after "Would".

**The Reaper** · 11-21-2010, 11:28

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Originally Posted by zauber1

Would the general consensus of opinion be to BUY or to BUILD if one had a general budget of say $1500.00 US? I am also in the market for a weapon for general purpose usage and may want to go into the 3 gun match in the area (if they have a Senior category).

Unless you are really good at gunsmithing, I would take a completed rifle from a quality maker over a Frankengun every day.

That is not to say that a quality complete upper and a complete lower cannot be an option, if you cannot find the combo you want from a single manufacturer.

TR

koz · 11-21-2010, 14:15

I'd look at Bravo Co USA -

They make very quality complete upper assemblies. They also are selling complete rifles now.

Ramirez · 11-21-2010, 16:12

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Originally Posted by koz

I'd look at Bravo Co USA -

They make very quality complete upper assemblies. They also are selling complete rifles now.

I like BCM and DD. They seem to really be listening to what people want and MAKING IT!!!

I put 300 rounds down my DDM4 V1 yesterday and another 100 on wednesday.

HisDisciple · 11-21-2010, 16:39

I've already been PM over, "The Chart" so here it is; Paslode posted it already on another thread:

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642

It is why most people prefer Military TDP quality ARs over commercial junk.

Might as well by the right rifle the first time, and know you have a quality fighting gun. +1 for BCM, just ask Pat Rodgers.

Gene Econ · 11-22-2010, 07:44

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Originally Posted by HisDisciple

It is why most people prefer Military TDP quality ARs over commercial junk.

Might as well by the right rifle the first time, and know you have a quality fighting gun. +1 for BCM, just ask Pat Rodgers.

HD:

So, aside from the automatic features -- you would opt for an M-4 coming off the assembly line for issue as opposed to selecting the type of upper and parts you want from a reputable manufacturer?

Gene