07-31-2013, 12:53
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North Carolina Ends Teacher Tenure (Proposed)
Teachers Will Now Have to Be Good at Their Jobs to Keep Them
What's up NC...? First the gun laws now this....
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Republican legislators in North Carolina have pushed through a proposal to revoke lifetime tenure for the state's public school teachers. Currently, all teachers are elligible for tenure after five years on the job, which makes it difficult for school adminstrators to hire, fire, and reward performance.
Under the new plan, top performers will be offered four year contracts, while others will be on one or two year contracts.
It's not exactly at-will employment—the kind of jobs that most of us have, in which both parties can choose to end the period of employment whenever they like, without advance warning—but it's a heckuva lot closer.
Naturally, local union officials are flipping out:
“It’s going to create a revolving door for public educators in North Carolina,” said Rodney Ellis, president of the North Carolina Association of Educators....
“That’s devastating to the educators and the profession itself,” Ellis said. “It sends the message to people throughout the state of North Carolina that educators aren’t valued for what they do.”
But North Carolina teachers still enjoy more employment protection than pretty much any other schmucks in the state. If the possibility of getting fired from your job means people do not value what you do, then the bosses of America are pretty universally ungrateful assholes.
This is hardly an unprecedented move by the Tar Heel State. Idaho killed tenure in 2011 [UPDATE: That measure was overturned by voter referendum the following year], and South Dakota, Louisiana, New Mexico, Colorado, and Florida have all moved away from systems where teachers' jobs are sacrosanct as well in recent years.
At times like these, it's always best to turn to Ghostbusters for some sage wisdom on how to deal with panic induced by changes in the pleasant bubble of academe:
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http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/30/te...eir-jobs-north
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07-31-2013, 13:04
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Not only that
Not only that but there must be a $4,200 school voucher portion in the bill.
One of the rent-a-mob protesters (school teacher) was screaming that the voucher (and Bill) is going to be the downfall of Rome - frogs from the sky and other disasters of Biblical proportions.
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07-31-2013, 13:07
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This plan sounds perfectly reasonable to me. The union response is so predictable.
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07-31-2013, 13:41
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The only part of the bill I don't agree with is cutting the extra pay for a teacher to further their education.
I feel if they further/better themselves to be better teachers, they should get paid more...
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08-01-2013, 06:20
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Originally Posted by glebo
The only part of the bill I don't agree with is cutting the extra pay for a teacher to further their education.
I feel if they further/better themselves to be better teachers, they should get paid more...
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IF that is what it is used for.
IMHO it should be a re-inbursement system.
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08-01-2013, 06:36
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IF that is what it is used for.
IMHO it should be a re-inbursement system.
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That would work also.
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08-01-2013, 09:09
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You mean teachers will have to be good at their jobs to keep them? Who ever heard of such a novel concept?
Maybe the military, and most businesses should do something similar.  
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08-01-2013, 09:39
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In Texas, new teachers with less than 5 years experience and teachers in the private school sector were only given a 1 year contract and your annual performance/evaluation determined whether your were offered/not offered another contract.
Tenured public school teachers were only offered a 2 year contract which could be renewed if they met the same performance/evaluation criteria during that two year period.
I'm now in the process of learning how it works out here in NorCal.
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