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Hasan Won't Plead Guilty, May Use Insanity Defense
Defense Attorney: Hasan Won't Plead Guilty, May Use Insanity Defense
Retired Col. John Galligan Says Accused Fort Hood Shooter Is Paralyzed From Chest Down and in Severe Pain
By MARK SCHONE
Nov. 22, 2009
The defense attorney for accused his client will probably plead not guilty and that an insanity defense is possible.
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Attorney says Hasan is lucid and won't plead guilty to charges of killing 13.
"I anticipate that the plea will be not guilty," said defense attorney John Galligan.
Asked if he was considering an insanity plea for his client, who faces 13 counts of premeditated murder, Galligan said, "I'm fairly confident that that's going to have to at least be examined. And that's problematic. But we haven't reached that stage yet."
Galligan said he has also learned that his client, who will be tried in a military court, may face additional charges for the Nov. 5 shooting spree in Fort Hood, Texas. He said he was alerted to the new charges during a pre-trial confinement hearing before a military magistrate held in Hasan's San Antonio hospital room Saturday.
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After the hearing at the Brooke Army Medical Center Saturday, Galligan said his client is paralyzed from the chest down and is a not a flight risk. The military magistrate ruled that Hasan will stay at Brooke Army Medical Center for now, but the military has the option of moving him to another medical facility or to jail.
According to Galligan, Hasan is paralyzed, is incontinent and "in severe pain."
"He is an individual in need of constant medical attention," Galligan said. "He has no sensation from his chest down."
Previously, Galligan had said Hasan was paralyzed from the waist down. Galligan questioned the speed with which the legal process is moving.
"In the 36 years I've dealt with military justice cases," Galligan said, "this is the first time I have ever had to go to an ICU to conduct a hearing. "We could have conducted this hearing next week. He is paralyzed. He is not going on leave."
Galligan, a retired Army colonel now in private practice, said the hearing lasted a little over an hour. According to Galligan, Hasan is coherent, "is able to speak with me, at least for short periods of time," and understands that legal proceedings are underway and such proceedings as the hearing will grow more frequent.
Galligan said he does not expect the Army to move his client from Brooke AMC immediately, but he does want to know when Hasan might be moved and where he might be moved. Hasan's official change in status from pre-trial restriction to pre-trial confinement, which was the subject of the Saturday hearing, also limits the number of people who can visit him.
"He is still a patient, but he is also a pretrial confinee," Galligan said. "There was not a compelling government interest to change his status at this time. "Given that condition, why is he anything but a patient?"
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Hasan was transferred to Brooke AMC Nov. 6, a day after the shooting. He was taken off a ventilator Nov. 7. The following day, when investigators tried to interview him, he refused to answer questions and requested a lawyer.
Galligan, whose private practice is in nearby Belton, Texas, met with Hasan for the first time Nov. 9. He has asked that his security clearance be reinstated so that he can review all the evidence against Hasan.
Galligan told "Good Morning America" that he is defending Hasan because he has spent "a large portion of my military career and post-retirement career" representing soldiers.
"I'm proud any time I have an opportunity to defend an American soldier or officer in a court martial proceeding," Galligan said. "Mayor Hasan is presumed innocent of these charges."
Military prosecutors plan to seek the death penalty.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/de...ory?id=9148871
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11-22-2009, 14:36
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Hasan is paralyzed, is incontinent and "in severe pain."
Sometimes, there is justice.
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11-22-2009, 14:46
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"He is an individual in need of constant medical attention," Galligan said.
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Hopefully just enough medical attention to keep him alive (until his execution date) but not enough to address his physical pain.
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11-22-2009, 14:48
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Well,......
Well, he is a Muslim.
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11-22-2009, 14:49
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According to Galligan, Hasan is paralyzed, is incontinent and "in severe pain."
"He is an individual in need of constant medical attention," Galligan said. "He has no sensation from his chest down."
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Now knowing this, all that needs to be done is to find a small hole of a cell, in complete darkness, with no human contact possible. And stick this bastard in it.
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11-22-2009, 15:08
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According to Galligan, Hasan is paralyzed, is incontinent and "in severe pain."
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Hopefully at least a small comfort to the victims' families.
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11-22-2009, 15:18
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Hopefully at least a small comfort to the victims' families. 
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11-22-2009, 15:44
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Hasan is paralyzed, is incontinent and "in severe pain."
Sometimes, there is justice.
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I feel for those having to deal with his incontinence; and any other contact.
Like to learn of his pain on a 1-10 scale. Then compare it with the pain created in those he killed and injured. He should be treated with Narcan or Naltrexone daily, to block any benefit from narcotic pain meds. Would I do that as a provider, no; nice thought anyway!
Among the dead, I believe, there was a 51 year old psychiatrist who signed on to help soldiers as best he could. Also murdered were two PA's; among the other soldiers.
May he live long and suffer, then go straight to hell!!!
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11-22-2009, 17:22
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..."as god wills it"
Sorry your shot at martyrdom failed major hassan
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Galligan said. "Mayor Hasan is presumed innocent of these charges."
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The man who made this statement is a disgrace to that thing most people know as good common sense.
Mr Galligan, you sir are an idiot... may your thirst for justice leave your throat scratchy and sore.
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11-22-2009, 17:55
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Originally Posted by Billy L-bach
..."as god wills it"
Sorry your shot at martyrdom failed major hassan
The man who made this statement is a disgrace to that thing most people know as good common sense.
Mr Galligan, you sir are an idiot... may your thirst for justice leave your throat scratchy and sore.
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The evidence is overwhelming that he did it, that he shouted Allah akhbar! before he did it. God is indeed great, Allah is indeed merciful. Allah allowed him to live, to be a para and to go on trial for his crime. Personally, I think he should be stoned to death by the families and soldiers he chose to harm. Will that happen, doubtful. We don't do such things in this country. But I sure as heck can fantisize about it.
Thank you to the lady cop who shot, but did not kill this sick f**k. I am thrilled to know he lives, thrilled to know he will be tried by the Army, not some PC civilian court.
I also think that everyone of those people who came forward to say they saw this about to happen but were to afraid of not being PC to open thier mouths, should be tried as accomplices. They are just as guilty as he is in my book.
yep, the dude is insane for sure.
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Originally Posted by Billy L-bach
..."as god wills it"
Galligan said. "Mayor Hasan is presumed innocent of these charges."
The man who made this statement is a disgrace to that thing most people know as good common sense.
Mr Galligan, you sir are an idiot... may your thirst for justice leave your throat scratchy and sore.
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Get a grip. This is the American form of Justice. EVERYONE is presumed innocent until the jury comes back with a unanimous guilty verdict (in a capital murder case). Colonel (ret) Galligan is an experienced military defense attorney. He's doin' his f'ing job. I want Major Hasan to have the best possible representation, the most respected judge, an unimpeachable jury, maybe even televised. Good luck to him. And I hope, expect he will be convicted and sentenced to death. And I hope before sentence is carried out he comes to the realization of what a terrible thing he did and embraces a sense of shame and regret -- to the point that he finds execution a release.
But that is just me.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ney_galli.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...111018758.html
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11-22-2009, 18:39
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I agree with Dozier, however I will say this... The "GITMO 5" have all changed their pleas to "Not guilty". I believe the true purpose and intent is to be able to explore the "system" and try to make public everything they can. They will also grandstand about everything that is wrong in America and attempt to drag this out as long as they can. By doing this they will "recruit" more "true believers" to support their cause. IMHO Hasan will do the same.
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11-22-2009, 18:42
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No requirement...
[QUOTE=Dozer523;297879]....... EVERYONE is presumed innocent until the jury comes back with a unanimous guilty verdict (in a capital murder case). ....../QUOTE]
The perp is only presumed innocent in court. There is no requirement for the general public to presume them innocent.
To the soldiers that saw him do it there is no "presumed" about it. He did it.
But like you said it's up to his defense team to get him off - even if it destroys a few military careers in the process.
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By doing this they will "recruit" more "true believers" to support their cause. IMHO Hasan will do the same.
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I do wonder how many true believers are sitting on the sidelines waiting for a court case to get in the game.
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Get a grip. This is the American form of Justice. EVERYONE is presumed innocent until the jury comes back with a unanimous guilty verdict (in a capital murder case). Colonel (ret) Galligan is an experienced military defense attorney. He's doin' his f'ing job. I want Major Hasan to have the best possible representation, the most respected judge, an unimpeachable jury, maybe even televised. Good luck to him. And I hope, expect he will be convicted and sentenced to death. And I hope before sentence is carried out he comes to the realization of what a terrible thing he did and embraces a sense of shame and regret -- to the point that he finds execution a release.
But that is just me.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ney_galli.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...111018758.html
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Let's review the evidence.
Unimpeachable witnesses presnt at the crime. Check.
Weapons used (in his name). Check.
Ballistics testing of bullets from the victims, matching the gun in his hand when he fell. Check.
13 dead soldiers, killed by this POS, and another 30 or so wounded. Check.
Shouting Allahu Akbar as he opened fire. Check.
Shot by LEOs, at the scene of the crime, while he was in the act of killing fellow soldiers. Check.
Who do you think did it, his evil twin, or the Easter bunny?
If you are observed by multiple witnesses, who know you personally, while you are committing a crime, with motive, means, and opportunity, and a smoking gun in your hands, you are not "alleged" anything. You are the perpetrator. You may be judged not guilty by a judge or a jury for a number of reasons. That does not mean you are innocent, or did not commit the crime.
I do not think that you are entitled to equal or better representation than the government, by some grandstanding shyster.
Since there is no way to bring back our dead, or to make the injured completely whole again, as a bad person, I want the most painful, medieval sentence handed down that is possible to get approved, and I want him to suffer in agony, for as long as possible, to punish him and to serve as an example to anyone else who would contemplate the betrayal of their brothers and sisters like this. Were it in my power, I would make this POS suffer horribly for as long as possible, and ensure that he died in a manner that would prohibit his transition to the afterlife as prescribed by his religion.
Since we cannot do that under our system, I will settle for seeing him tried and sentenced to suffer with his injuries until an unfortunately merciful military appointed executioner sends him to his eternal rewards. Alternately, should he not get a well-deserved death sentence, I hope that he spends a long time suffering in the USDB with sadistic guards who deprive him of his pain medication and ensure that every second of every minute of his remaining life is as miserable as possible, while he lies in his own waste crying out that Allah has abandoned his ass to the infidels. When he dies after a long painful miserable existence, he needs to be cremated and his remains fed to the hogs at the USDB farm.
But that is just my .02.
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