10-16-2009, 18:15
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Official: Obama 'disgusted' with Israel
Official: Obama 'disgusted' with Israel
Says president poised to press for withdrawal from strategic territory
October 16, 2009
Aaron Klein
WorldNetDaily
JERUSALEM – U.S. officials in recent days expressed to the Palestinian Authority (PA) that President Obama's administration
is "disgusted" with Israel, a top aide to PA President Mahmoud Abbas told WND in an interview.
Nimr Hamad said the White House was disgusted that Israel is refusing to halt all settlement activity as a precondition for re-starting talks with the PA over the creation of a Palestinian state. "Settlement activity" refers to Jewish construction in the West Bank and eastern sections of Jerusalem.
Hamad repeated that the term "disgusted" was used more than once in recent meetings with U.S. envoys to describe the administration's attitude toward Israel. Hamad did not name the U.S. envoys using the terminology.
George Mitchell, Obama's envoy for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, just this week wrapped up a series of meetings with Israeli and Palestinian leaders over re-starting talks.
Senior PA sources told WND yesterday the Obama administration urged them to begin publicly pressuring Israel, starting in March, to immediately withdraw from key areas in the West Bank and peripheral eastern Jerusalem sections in which the Palestinians currently maintain administrative control.
The sources specified that as a confidence-building measure toward the PA, Israel will be asked by the Obama administration to hand over security control to territories designated in the 1993 Oslo Accords as Area B – referring to cities administered by the PA but largely controlled by Israeli security. The specific section of the Oslo Accords regarding control of Area B was finalized in 1995.
Separately, a top PA source, speaking on condition his name be withheld, told WND two weeks ago the Obama administration largely has adopted the positions of the PA to create a Palestinian state within two years based on the 1967 borders, meaning Israel would retreat from most of the West Bank and eastern sections of Jerusalem.
The official said Obama also accepted the PA position that Israeli-Palestinian negotiations begin where they left off under Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who went further than previous Israeli leaders in his concessions to the Palestinians.
Olmert reportedly offered the PA not only 95 percent of the West Bank and peripheral eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods but also other territories never before offered by any Israeli leader, including parts of the Israeli Negev desert bordering Gaza as well as sections of the Jordan Valley.
The official claimed the Obama administration will still support the announcement of a Palestinian state within two years.
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10-16-2009, 18:20
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I wonder how my fellow Jews feel about their vote for Obama now. Last I brought the subject up, they were still in denial.
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10-16-2009, 18:27
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THIS will end badly.
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10-16-2009, 19:08
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Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor
Official: Obama 'disgusted' with Israel
Says president poised to press for withdrawal from strategic territory
The official claimed the Obama administration will still support the announcement of a Palestinian state within two years.
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And so it begins.
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10-17-2009, 06:45
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Just a thought; I wonder how long it will take before the dam cracks, and the people who feel duped begin screaming impeachment?
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10-17-2009, 07:41
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...a top aide to PA President Mahmoud Abbas...
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Consider the source - Wishful thinking by the PA? - Maybe true...maybe not.
And so it goes...
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10-17-2009, 22:14
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Honest ....who isn't...... there not a thing that Israel produces that we import or use, or need for that matter; except the manipulation of the press, our election process, our entire foreign policy posture is related to their view point. We need to be their pawns, as it is better in their eyes that we sacrifice our youth for their cause then they sacrifice theirs.
What has Israel given us, what is the population in the US that can support such arrogance? Explain that to me, I’ll be fully attentive. How is it that a country with less 1% of the ethnicity can control 99% of the populace?
If Obama has the balls to say to Israel no more developments, He’ll be the first President since Eisenhower to free us from a foreign oppression without firing a shot.
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10-18-2009, 00:38
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I don't believe there is anything that Israel can do or not do which will satisfy the Palestinians or the rest of the Islamic World. Some believe there is an ideal agreement or formulae which can result in peace, I don't believe the Islam World wants that. Their goal is power, and Israel is just the lever they use to generate support allowing them to wage their war with somewhat popular support. They have to have a devil otherwise, their folks might wake up one day and say why are we living in this shit hole when the rest of the World is modern etc.
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Honest ....who isn't...... there not a thing that Israel produces that we import or use, or need for that matter; except the manipulation of the press, our election process, our entire foreign policy posture is related to their view point. We need to be their pawns, as it is better in their eyes that we sacrifice our youth for their cause then they sacrifice theirs.
What has Israel given us, what is the population in the US that can support such arrogance? Explain that to me, I’ll be fully attentive. How is it that a country with less 1% of the ethnicity can control 99% of the populace?
If Obama has the balls to say to Israel no more developments, He’ll be the first President since Eisenhower to free us from a foreign oppression without firing a shot.
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With the exception of importing goods, I think the above is overstating the situation. I'm sure both Israel and Jewish Americans affect our foreign policy to some degree. Jewish Americans have a right to, and Israel is an ally and hopefully our goals and there's are in many areas are similar. I do not believe we are pawns or that they manipulate our press. If that was true, why is Obama president?
It wasn't Israel that blew up the USS Cole or took down the World Trade Center. If there was no Israel, I still believe we would be having problems with the Islamic World. I mean there has only been a Jewish state since 1948.
Probably the one reason America is so supportive of Israel relates to our Judeo Christian heritage. Without that heritage, there is not the America we have today. To ignore this or discount it is folly.
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10-18-2009, 05:37
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Wow Penn. You left out control of the banks.
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10-18-2009, 06:18
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Wow Penn. You left out control of the banks. 
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And diamonds...
Stay safe.
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10-18-2009, 06:22
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Wow Penn. You left out control of the banks.
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And Hollywood...
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10-18-2009, 06:25
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I didn't know Mel Gibson was a member here
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10-18-2009, 06:36
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- Outside the United States and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies.
- Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 was over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.
- The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel.
- Most of the Windows NT operating system was developed by Microsoft-Israel.
- The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel.
- Voice mail technology was developed in Israel.
- Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel.
- The AOL Instant Messenger was developed in 1996 by four young Israelis.
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All the above while engaged in regular wars with an implacable enemy that seeks its destruction, and an economy continuously under strain by having to spend more per capita on its own protection than any other country on earth. This from a country just 55 years young having started off life on a very frontiers-like basis, whose population had mostly just emerged from the devastating World War II years.
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I've been meaning to vacation there for awhile also....
Stay safe.
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10-18-2009, 08:57
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Your post strikes me as not very moderate for a moderator. Perhaps being Jewish has something to do with it.
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10-18-2009, 09:17
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Me.
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