02-16-2009, 10:10
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true story of valentine's day
THE STORY of VALENTINE's DAY
In spite of what you have been told by everyone, the truth is that Valentine's Day originated hundreds of years ago, in India, and to top it all, in the state of Gujarat!!
It is a well known fact that Gujarati men, specially the Patels, continually mistreat and disrespect their wives (Patelianis). One fine day, it happened to be the 14th day of February, one brave Patelani, having had enough "torture" by her husband, finally chose to rebel by beating him up with a Velan (rolling pin to make chapattis). Yes, the same Velan which she used daily, to make chapattis for him... only this time, instead of the dough, it was the husband who was flattened.
This was a momentous occasion for all Gujarati women and a revolt soon spread, like wild fire, with thousands of housewives beating up their husbands with the Velan. There was an outburst of moaning "chapatti-ed" husbands all over Anand and Amdavad.
The Patel men-folk quickly learnt their lesson and started to behave more respectfully with their Patelanis.
Thereafter, on 14th February every year, the women-folk of Gujarat would beat up their husbands to commemorate that eventful day - the wives having the satisfaction of beating up their husbands with the Velan and the men having the supreme joy of submitting to the will of the women they loved.
Soon the Gujju men realized that in order to avoid this ordeal they needed to present gifts to their wives. Thus, they brought flowers and sweets. This is how the tradition - Velan time - began.
As Gujarat fell under the influence of Western culture, the ritual soon spread to Britain and many other Western countries, specifically, the catch words 'Velan time'! In course of time, due to their foreign tongues, this got anglicized to 'Velantime' and then to 'Valentine'. And thereafter, 14th of February came to be known as Valentine's Day and now you know the true story of Valentine's day.
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02-16-2009, 10:41
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02-16-2009, 15:38
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Originally Posted by frostfire
THE STORY of VALENTINE's DAY
In spite of what you have been told by everyone, the truth is that Valentine's Day originated hundreds of years ago, in India, and to top it all, in the state of Gujarat!!
It is a well known fact that Gujarati men, specially the Patels, continually mistreat and disrespect their wives (Patelianis). One fine day, it happened to be the 14th day of February, one brave Patelani, having had enough "torture" by her husband, finally chose to rebel by beating him up with a Velan (rolling pin to make chapattis). Yes, the same Velan which she used daily, to make chapattis for him... only this time, instead of the dough, it was the husband who was flattened.
This was a momentous occasion for all Gujarati women and a revolt soon spread, like wild fire, with thousands of housewives beating up their husbands with the Velan. There was an outburst of moaning "chapatti-ed" husbands all over Anand and Amdavad.
The Patel men-folk quickly learnt their lesson and started to behave more respectfully with their Patelanis.
Thereafter, on 14th February every year, the women-folk of Gujarat would beat up their husbands to commemorate that eventful day - the wives having the satisfaction of beating up their husbands with the Velan and the men having the supreme joy of submitting to the will of the women they loved.
Soon the Gujju men realized that in order to avoid this ordeal they needed to present gifts to their wives. Thus, they brought flowers and sweets. This is how the tradition - Velan time - began.
As Gujarat fell under the influence of Western culture, the ritual soon spread to Britain and many other Western countries, specifically, the catch words 'Velan time'! In course of time, due to their foreign tongues, this got anglicized to 'Velantime' and then to 'Valentine'. And thereafter, 14th of February came to be known as Valentine's Day and now you know the true story of Valentine's day.
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I do know the TRUE story of Valentine’s day, I studied it in a class during my Business Undergraduate degree. The real story is Hallmark basically created that silly holiday in the 50's after WWII to create a market for their products IIRC.
I wish I would have kept the textbook we had in that class, as it had the entire case study with all the references, thankfully I started dating my wife shortly after that class, I told her pretty much from the start that I would buy her flowers periodically throughout the year, but I refused to participate in a Holliday that was made specifically to make a profit by telling me that I have to buy something on a specific day or I don't love my significant other. I refuse to be told when to be romantic, I can do that on my own without a corporation’s help!
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02-16-2009, 19:52
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JJ............. A thousand words..................
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02-17-2009, 21:59
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Originally Posted by Defender968
I do know the TRUE story of Valentine’s day, I studied it in a class during my Business Undergraduate degree. The real story is Hallmark basically created that silly holiday in the 50's after WWII to create a market for their products IIRC.
I wish I would have kept the textbook we had in that class, as it had the entire case study with all the references, thankfully I started dating my wife shortly after that class, I told her pretty much from the start that I would buy her flowers periodically throughout the year, but I refused to participate in a Holliday that was made specifically to make a profit by telling me that I have to buy something on a specific day or I don't love my significant other. I refuse to be told when to be romantic, I can do that on my own without a corporation’s help! 
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since we're taking a serious turn, this reminds me of another marketing ploy that created a worlwide trend: the *&$#*&#@@*$$ diamonds! A Diamond is Forever, Girl's best friend, and so on, which is nothing more than a less than 70 years old campaign by DeBeers. Diamond engagement ring has become the ultimate symbol of how much the relationship, the girl, and love itself is worth. The darn thing ain't rare if De Beers does not keep 90%+ of the supply, hence artificial price  and it sure is forever as you're stuck with it due to poor resale value. Ok, some ladies may accuse a guy just being cheap if he does not present the bling. Fine, if I ever propose, I'll give her a Sako TRG series. A $5000+ value. If she accepts, she's a keeper
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"we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope" Rom. 5:3-4
"So we can suffer, and in suffering we know who we are" David Goggins
"Aide-toi, Dieu t'aidera " Jehanne, la Pucelle
Der, der Geld verliert, verliert einiges;
Der, der einen Freund verliert, verliert viel mehr;
Der, der das Vertrauen verliert, verliert alles.
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02-17-2009, 22:17
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Originally Posted by frostfire
since we're taking a serious turn, this reminds me of another marketing ploy that created a worlwide trend: the *&$#*&#@@*$$ diamonds! A Diamond is Forever, Girl's best friend, and so on, which is nothing more than a less than 70 years old campaign by DeBeers. Diamond engagement ring has become the ultimate symbol of how much the relationship, the girl, and love itself is worth. The darn thing ain't rare if De Beers does not keep 90%+ of the supply, hence artificial price  and it sure is forever as you're stuck with it due to poor resale value. Ok, some ladies may accuse a guy just being cheap if he does not present the bling. Fine, if I ever propose, I'll give her a Sako TRG series. A $5000+ value. If she accepts, she's a keeper 
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There was a class action against DeBeers for illegally inflating prices through supply control, I wonder what ever happened to that. Good luck with the Sako, it's going to take a unique woman not to get upset if you refuse the diamond idea.
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02-18-2009, 18:16
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Originally Posted by frostfire
, some ladies may accuse a guy just being cheap if he does not present the bling.
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I must be an anomoly. Shocking, I know.
There are some outstanding CZ's out there, set in gold and no one can tell the difference. I have a few set in rings, earrings etc. One favorite is set in a 14K gold necklace, and one day in a jewelry store the sales person was fawning all over me until I told him to relax it was fake and I'm too poor to buy anything.  They took a jeweler's loop to it because they didn't believe me.
I'd rather be presented with one of those CZ "stunners" and save what that "real" diamond would cost.
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02-18-2009, 20:42
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I must be an anomoly. Shocking, I know.
There are some outstanding CZ's out there, set in gold and no one can tell the difference. I have a few set in rings, earrings etc. One favorite is set in a 14K gold necklace, and one day in a jewelry store the sales person was fawning all over me until I told him to relax it was fake and I'm too poor to buy anything.  They took a jeweler's loop to it because they didn't believe me.
I'd rather be presented with one of those CZ "stunners" and save what that "real" diamond would cost.
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Yep, real (as in mined) diamonds cost equal college fund, months worth of groceries, thousands candle-light dinners, and Sako TRG...
A cut above the rest indeed. Your S.O. is one blessed man.
Now, one does not have to go CZ anymore. Synthetic diamonds, which are literary real diamonds, with 99.9999% similarity that jewelers cannot distinguish anymore are available.
Chemical vapor deposition. The path to turn the table on De Beers
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1...ic=&topic_set=
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"we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope" Rom. 5:3-4
"So we can suffer, and in suffering we know who we are" David Goggins
"Aide-toi, Dieu t'aidera " Jehanne, la Pucelle
Der, der Geld verliert, verliert einiges;
Der, der einen Freund verliert, verliert viel mehr;
Der, der das Vertrauen verliert, verliert alles.
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02-18-2009, 20:55
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Now, one does not have to go CZ anymore. Synthetic diamonds, which are literary real diamonds, with 99.9999% similarity that jewelers cannot distinguish anymore are available.
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De beers has in store machines to test for lab diamonds and will for free.
That's what got my ass caught.
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02-18-2009, 21:23
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Originally Posted by frostfire
A cut above the rest indeed. Your S.O. is one blessed man.
Now, one does not have to go CZ anymore. Synthetic diamonds, which are literary real diamonds, with 99.9999% similarity that jewelers cannot distinguish anymore are available.
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LOL...no S.O. but thanks.
Interesting, didn't know about the synthetics.
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05-11-2009, 11:31
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A Keeper
Some might think guns as an unorthodox present, however, in my family they are a staple gift.
First Christmas: I got a USP Tactical in .45 and my wife got a Blackhawk .357
First Anniversary: matching Springfield XDs in .45
Second Christmas: Matchiing LWRC M6A2 rifles
Second Anniversary: Matching HK45s
Next Im thinking supressors.
And before the question arises yes my wife does like them, we pick them out together.
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