05-02-2009, 03:53
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Dog Food
I did not feel this was ready for the Gourmet Guerrilla thread just yet, and I did not know where else to place it.
Dog food is plant or animal material intended for consumption by dogs. Special dog foods given as a reward, and not as a staple, are known as dog treats. Some people make their own natural dog food or feed their dogs meals made from ingredients purchased in grocery or health-food stores; many others rely on commercially manufactured dog food and natural dog food.
There are many different recommendations on what diet is best for dogs. Some people argue that commercial dog foods contain additives or poor-quality (or even dangerous) meat or ingredients that dogs should not ingest or that certain commercial foods are not nutritionally sufficient for their dogs. Different homemade diets are recommended by various experts, from "natural dog food" diets consisting primarily of raw meat, to vegetarian diets consisting only of nutritionally balanced vegetarian ingredients, to mixtures consisting of ingredients such as brown rice, brown pasta, meats, eggs, and vegetables. Most dogs willingly eat vegetables, particularly if they are cooked, and many kinds of fruit, although my very limited research has revealed that grapes and raisins are toxic to dogs.
In regard to the above, I have come to the unusual decision to use my dogs, should the pandemic virus HIN! achive full bloom killer status this fall, as a reliable and stable food source. I know for some it is repugnant to even consider such an act as butchering your pet; and I am sure the SPCA has some thoughts on the subject, but my dogs eat very well and they have fatten up nicely.
The question is why I should not view this protein source as a dependable and no pun intended, faithful food source. It is after all animal husbandry, no different than cattle, poultry, sheep etc.
So, with that in mind I thought it would be wise to create a recipe file and begin testing different breeds for complexity and maintenance. I am thinking the mid size breeds like labs would be a good starting point, as they very much resemble the body type of sheep and quickly fatten up and hold the weight for a long period of time. Additionally, they are non aggressive which would make them ideal for the economical and sensible management of this resources.
If anyone is interested in taste testing the recipes let me know. I am think of working with a combination of spices in the Moroccan style. Dry rubs and slow grill roasting. Something in the genre of goat.
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05-02-2009, 15:30
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I would think weiner dogs would be a given.
We do have quite a few prairie dogs around here but I don't think they qualify. Besides they sometimes carry plague (which I understand is an appetite suppressant but has some adverse side effects).
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05-02-2009, 15:43
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I'd advise against eating your LP/OPs.  Got any plump neighbors?
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05-02-2009, 16:45
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Talk to your local Koreans.
They should have several good dog recipes.
Like Gaegogi.
TR
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05-02-2009, 17:07
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Eat a DOG
What in the name of what little is right in this world are you thinking?
Jonathan Swift had a much better idea in 1729. I offer an excerpt from A MODEST PROPOSAL FOR PREVENTING THE CHILDREN OF POOR PEOPLE IN IRELAND FROM BEING A BURDEN TO THEIR PARENTS OR COUNTRY, AND FOR MAKING THEM BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC.
”I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled ...”
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rbear/modest.html
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05-02-2009, 17:19
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Talk to your local Koreans.
They should have several good dog recipes.
Like Gaegogi.
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During the Olympics last Summer American athletes and visitors were told what dog means in Chinese so that when they ate out they wouldn't order it by accident.
I understand that the Vietnamese like 'hot dogs' too. LOL!
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05-02-2009, 17:32
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Let's get back to better dog food,...
I've got a Wirehair, Cache, age 5, and he's great for birds and lately spotting trout when my eyes can't see in the evening light.
My training and exercise program, geared for a guy turning 45 next week, is built on proper nutrition, plenty of rest, and a sound combination of strength training, cardio and flexability, (don't laugh, but yoga is kinda cool).
Lately, I've been doubting the advantages of commercial brands, and more specifically, "the better brands". Who out there can hook up a fellow dog owner with some sound advise? I feel my guy at least deserves my best efforts.
As for prarie-dogs, I've eaten them. My foster brother, a Navajo from Houke, AZ - raised in Gallop, NM - his grandmother, wow! Be sure to consume with hot peppers.
Consider horse meat. A lot of ponies are being turned out due to a lack of water and feed. Mustangs from ID, WY, UT and NV have seen predation by locals feeding their families.
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05-02-2009, 17:36
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I will vouch for horsemeat, I have been in places where it was a lot better than the beef.
Penn, NJ used to be one of the few states where you could buy horse for human consumption. I suspect that they have changed that law.
TR
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05-02-2009, 20:08
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TR, yes, the post was for deliberation. It’s a realistic resource and should be a serious consideration. That said, I am still going it need some taste testers……..who is going to man up? PM me.
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05-02-2009, 20:09
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I've might have had a couple of dogs before, I've had a few mystery meats.
The meats I've had and liked: Bison, Venison, Beaver, Rabbit, Snake, Horse, and a few various foul.
The ones I did not: Ostrich, Emu, Quail, Carp.
I here cougar's good and not just from Louis L'Amour, I want to try black bear,and moose too. I can't remember if I've had antelope.
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05-02-2009, 20:37
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Haven't had dog since Korea 32 years ago and it was an accident then. I'm with PSM on this one, mine are too valuable as part of the "detect, deter, and delay" plan to consider eating them. They work without electricity, they don't need phone lines to call monitoring companies, their food is available in 40 lb. bags (and will sustain humans), and they're omnivorous so they can fend for themselves in a pinch. Personally, I'm keeping an eye on the neighbor's horses. Course that's after I'm finished with the deer and turkeys that keep walking through the yard and the fish in the stocked farm ponds I've located within walking distance.
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05-02-2009, 20:50
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Count me in...
send me a PM, I'll provide a hard address.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by Penn
TR, yes, the post was for deliberation. It’s a realistic resource and should be a serious consideration. That said, I am still going it need some taste testers……..who is going to man up? PM me.
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05-02-2009, 20:53
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Someone say fish pond?
If you're ever in Colorado, drop me a line, (no pun intended), if fact, I'll be in NC for a young soldiers Q-course graduation come September. I'll bring a newly hand crafted, Michael Clark, bamboo fly-rod.
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Haven't had dog since Korea 32 years ago and it was an accident then. I'm with PSM on this one, mine are too valuable as part of the "detect, deter, and delay" plan to consider eating them. They work without electricity, they don't need phone lines to call monitoring companies, their food is available in 40 lb. bags (and will sustain humans), and they're omnivorous so they can fend for themselves in a pinch. Personally, I'm keeping an eye on the neighbor's horses. Course that's after I'm finished with the deer and turkeys that keep walking through the yard and the fish in the stocked farm ponds I've located within walking distance.
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05-02-2009, 21:07
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TR, yes, the post was for deliberation. It’s a realistic resource and should be a serious consideration. That said, I am still going it need some taste testers……..who is going to man up? PM me.
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Is it better tasting than ALPO? If so, I'll try some. No, I'm not kidding. You have to pay for my ticket to NY though, and a Monday night at Iridium Jazz club - both of Les Paul's sets, plus the minimum for each show. Oh, and possibly a lunch or dinner at La Dolce Vita on Prince - there is no phone number - but it is Family owned... and the food is excellent.
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05-02-2009, 22:25
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Eat a DOG  What in the name of what little is right in this world ar you thinking. Jonathan swift had a much better in 1729 an excerpt from A MODEST PROPOSAL FOR PREVENTING THE CHILDREN OF POOR PEOPLE IN IRELAND FROM BEING A BURDEN TO THEIR PARENTS OR COUNTRY, AND FOR MAKING THEM BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC.
”I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled ...”
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rbear/modest.html
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I am with you.... children are much much better.. a plump 4th grader can feed a family for a week....might want to add this to your recipe file..
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Recipe for Unattended Children.
Ingredients:
2 cups potatoes 1 whole garlic
2 cups carrots 2 cups of red wine
1 cup celery 1 cup onion
1 Unattended Child
Directions:
First render the child helpless by dinging it on the center of the forehead with the nearest blunt object. The child should fall loosely to the ground.
Remove all merchandise that the child was about to pocket or destroy.
Make sure your flame is high and your cooking area secure for any struggling and screaming that may occur in the first few moments of cooking.
Now it is time to throw in above ingredients. Baste child evenly and let fire die down til golden brown.
*To add a special twist to your entree, remove fingers and toes. Fry them in butter and scatter them in a artsy fashion around your main dish... your guests will surely be impressed and your neighbors grateful. Helpful hints: double recipe accordingly depending on the amount of unattended children. Use 1 additional onion if they are Girl Scouts. Remove all scabs prior to cooking little leaguers.
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