11-28-2014, 10:05
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Russia Allows Citizens to Carry for Self Protection!
Now isn't this interesting. Russia is now going to allow carry for self protection!
http://www.gunnews.com/russia-now-al...ncealed-carry/
Never thought I'll see this.
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11-28-2014, 10:39
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Huh. What d'ya know?
Thanks for posting.
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The crazy part is that the people and the government want people to be able to defend themselves from criminals, but more importantly from the police. Alexander Navalny, an opposition politician and strong firearms supporter, said the following:
“We have a huge homicide rate, most of these murders are unsolved, and many police officers are among the criminal,” Navalny continued,” In America, the argument works that there are professionals to protect us. Here, the police are the main criminals, and they’re armed.”
Unfortunately, this used to be the case in the United States, but we are seeing a change in the status that the police have in the eyes of the people and in the way that the police treat the citizens that they are sworn to protect and serve.
Maria Butina of the Russian Right to Bear Arms group understands exactly how concealed carry protects citizens: “A person may decide not to commit a crime if he thinks he may be shot or may encounter resistance.”
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11-28-2014, 13:11
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Lol, next thing ya know..."da da komrade you did built that..."
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11-29-2014, 04:46
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
My understanding though is that there isn't a whole lot of change here, that they just did some changing of words, but regular Russians will still not be able to carry guns for the most part.
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Because?
Is that because of some "may issue" (vs. shall) aspect of the law, such as some of our states have, where only a few special ones are allowed to acquire a permit? Or some other reason?
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11-29-2014, 11:25
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Originally Posted by Badger52
Because?
Is that because of some "may issue" (vs. shall) aspect of the law, such as some of our states have, where only a few special ones are allowed to acquire a permit? Or some other reason?
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Don't have any personal knowledge. But here is a post with people discussing this issue. Note there are people in the comments who claim to know what they are talking about. According to them, this is not much of a change. Take it for what it is worth.
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11-29-2014, 19:43
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Well, adding the reason self-defense is at least a baby-step. Several states here want to know that, which I found out back when I cared about collecting non-res permit like baseball cards.
Thanks for the add'l link.
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11-29-2014, 22:22
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When you can enjoy a right in the capital of the former Soviet Union that you cannot in Washington, DC, things are seriously out of whack.
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