Britain to brief Muslims before raids

[lrd]

I'm not in law enforcement, but this seems incredibly stupid to me. Can anyone explain why this would be a good thing?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...372471,00.html

The Sunday Times September 24, 2006

Police to brief Muslims before terror raids
Abul Taher


POLICE have agreed to consult a panel of Muslim leaders before mounting counter-terrorist raids or arrests. Members of the panel will offer their assessment of whether information police have on a suspect is too flimsy and will also consider the consequences on community relations of a raid.

Members will be security vetted and will have to promise not to reveal any intelligence they are shown. They will not have to sign the Official Secrets Act.

The first panel, expected to consist of four people, will be set up initially in London. Tomorrow representatives from police forces across England and Wales will decide whether to make the scheme national.

Muslim groups have welcomed the move, which is understood to be backed by Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner.

This week the Association of Chief Police Officers will discuss with MI5 and the Home Office whether to reveal to the panel intelligence information from the security service.

The idea came from the Metropolitan police and the Muslim Safety Forum (MSF), which works for better police-Muslim relations. It has been under discussion for two years and came to the top of the agenda after a police raid in Forest Gate, London, in June, in which a man was shot. Police were acting on a tip-off about a bomb. None was found.

Azad Ali, chairman of the MSF, said: “The major concern that came to us from Muslims was that the intelligence was flawed — the raid was on assumption and nothing else. This will allow independent scrutiny of intelligence.”

The police and the Crown Prosecution Service have sometimes been criticised for being over-cautious about tackling Muslim extremism. Last week Abu Izzadeen, a radical cleric who has so far escaped prosecution despite seemingly inciting terrorism, gained entry to a closed meeting in east London and heckled John Reid, the home secretary.

It has now emerged that Izzadeen apparently urged Muslims to wage holy war in Britain in an internet video downloaded by several thousand users from websites that closed down two months ago. The sites were linked to the Saved Sect, of which Izzadeen was leader and which has now been banned and disbanded.

In the video he told his audience: “In the UK no fighting takes place yet, but don’t be fooled, the time will come to you brothers . . . fighting is so close at hand.”

He adds: “You prepare yourself now and when the hard time comes you are ready to defend yourself; you are ready to die for the sake of Allah.”

David Corker, a partner in the London law firm Corker Binning, which has dealt with terrorism cases, said of the video: “There is enough material there for him to be considered for prosecution.”

Izzadeen, 34, did not respond to requests for comment this weekend.

Copyright 2006 Times Newspapers Ltd.

[Texian]

This has to be a joke.

I'm not laughing either way.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by lrd

Muslim groups have welcomed the move, which is understood to be backed by Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner.

Of course they have.

This is beyond stupid.

[CoLawman]

Members will be security vetted and will have to promise not to reveal any intelligence they are shown. They will not have to sign the Official Secrets Act.

Follow the bouncing ball.......

The police and the Crown Prosecution Service have sometimes been criticised for being over-cautious about tackling Muslim extremism. Last week Abu Izzadeen, a radical cleric who has so far escaped prosecution despite seemingly inciting terrorism, gained entry to a closed meeting in east London and heckled John Reid, the home secretary.

Continue to follow the bouncing ball........

It has now emerged that Izzadeen apparently urged Muslims to wage holy war in Britain in an internet video downloaded by several thousand users from websites that closed down two months ago. The sites were linked to the Saved Sect, of which Izzadeen was leader and which has now been banned and disbanded.

The precediing sing along was conducted by Neville Chamberlain!

[The Reaper]

The Brits beat the Huns and the Nazis, and stood firm in the darkest days of the 20th century.

Now, thanks to leftists, PC, and poorly thought out immigration policies, Brits must prepare to submit to Sharia law.

A once mighty empire that spanned the globe, asking permission from no one, destroyed from within.

Incredible.

Once the libs see what happens when the first western nation falls to the Islamist extremists, they will be sorry, but by then, it may be too late. Women's rights, democracy, free press, gay rights, freedom of religion, judicial process, free education, property rights, a Constitution, emancipation, the arts, music, entertainment of all kinds, and a ton of other freedoms we take for granted will be gone in a flash.

Welcome to the 14th century and Islamic fundamentalist freedoms.

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

-Niemöller

TR

[incommin]

NO the far left will not feel sorry. They will blame everything on the "right" for stirring up Islam. The good thing is the US is not Europe. The crap starts here and thousands of red necks will go hunting Muslim extremists.

Jim

[Monsoon65]

Originally Posted by incommin

The crap starts here and thousands of red necks will go hunting Muslim extremists.........

You know, I've always had that thought in the back of my head.

[lrd]

I'm wondering how much of our intelligence that we share with Britain will be passed on to this panel.

[x SF med]

I can hear the planning for the raids now,

Ring, Ring

"Hello, Mullah X, this is Constable Y. We were hoping to hold a raid on your bomb making facility next Wednesday evening, oh, that's not good for you, Friday's better? Jolly good, old chap, about 7 ish then, and you won't warn the bombers now will you, No? Great, super, see you then old boy....."

Click.

Utterly stupid.

[Huey14]

I'd like to think this is some kind of cunning ploy, but sadly I doubt it.