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Springfield SOCOM 16
I would like to try this one
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01-22-2004, 09:03
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Looks like they resectioned an M-14, shortened gas cylinder, etc...what caliber is it?
I fired a shortened M-1, it was a blast put a bunch or rounds through it:
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01-22-2004, 09:18
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Apparently developed with feedback from the guys in the sandbox.
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01-22-2004, 09:23
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I like it, it would have the same feel as the M-1 I fired, with a 20 rd mag as opposed to an 8 rd clip:
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01-22-2004, 14:56
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Our company took M-14's to A-stan with us.
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01-22-2004, 16:18
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Originally posted by BEK1411
Our company took M-14's to A-stan with us.
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I remember the day I turned in my M-1 Garand in and was issued a brand new M-14, probably 1962:
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01-22-2004, 16:28
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Originally posted by HFCUIDOC
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Apparently developed with feedback from the guys in the sandbox.
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I know this is apparent to you guys, but whats the benefit of the shortened barrel?
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01-22-2004, 16:35
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Just a well educated guess, contact in close quarters and for use inside of vehicles.
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01-22-2004, 16:38
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Makes sense to me:
I carried an M-14 in my B-model, the only weapon I was able to put behind the seat of my Cobra was a Car-15:
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01-22-2004, 16:47
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Quote:
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I remember the day I turned in my M-1 Garand in and was issued a brand new M-14, probably 1962:
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Come on Terry, you remember when they "Invented" gunpower!
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01-22-2004, 16:54
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Come on Terry, you remember when they "Invented" gunpower!
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Nice...pick on the old guy, right? 
I also remember firing a water cooled .30 cal, AND I remember firing a BAR, I believe it had two rates of fire 350 and 550 rds per minute:
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01-22-2004, 16:55
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Just a well educated guess, contact in close quarters and for use inside of vehicles.
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I knew that. 
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01-22-2004, 17:51
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I know this is apparent to you guys, but whats the benefit of the shortened barrel?
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Ease of carry and manueverability.
FWIW, I do not think it is the trade. I have a Springfield Armory "Bush Rifle", essentially an M-1A with an 18" barrel, and the increased flash and blast are not worth the trade off.
The accurized M-14 is also somewhat fragile, and requires significant upper echelon maintenance.
The USMC version is the DMR, IIRC.
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01-22-2004, 17:57
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and the increased flash and blast are not worth the trade off.
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That's what makes it fun!
I was looking at it again and I'll bet the muzzle flash is impressive.
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01-22-2004, 18:07
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The accurized M-14 is also somewhat fragile, and requires significant upper echelon maintenance.
The USMC version is the DMR, IIRC.
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Would the "accurized M-14" be the similar to the M-24 I viewed in the 2/7th? arms room?
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