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Old 07-31-2005, 15:53   #67
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I could have counted them all, but did not see the relevance of a peripheral discussion when the primary point of my response about Insurrection vs. Civil War remained unanswered by RL, who asked the question.
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What is the difference between an insurgency and an "armed rebellion"? The latter is a subset of the first, isn't it?
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Not relevant to me in this case, since I disagree with the premise.

On a theoretical discussion, since JCS Pub 1-02 defines insurgency as :

"insurgency — (*) An organized movement aimed at the overthrow of a constituted government through use of subversion and armed conflict."

The Confederacy attempted a seccession, initially peacefully. The Union denied that. Prior to the War, it could be argued that states freely joining the Union, could decide to freely leave the Union. There was no effort to overthrow the Federal government. Thus, I would submit that there was no effort to overthrow the government, just to declare independence and secede from it.
I'm not clear on what I was supposed to answer, but your response confirms what I said, which is that "armed rebellion" is a subset of "insurgency."

I am not well-versed in the history of the Civil War and have no reason to doubt your statement that the North invaded the South in response to what could have been a peaceful secession.
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