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**Peregrino** · 07-21-2005, 12:37

Tuukka - Thanks for the 10-8forums "heads-up". I liked what I saw. What I looked at seemed very professional. You're right about the attitudes and hyperbole in (some of) the US firms. Too much reliance on egos and marketing hype. I don't think the SureFire suppressor crew has that problem - of course I'm prejudiced. Each time TR drags me out to the plant we try to get by and see them. They are a great bunch of guys and I fully intend to get to know them better. Dr. Mathews (the boss/owner of SureFire) gave them a mandate (as I understand it - TR will know more) to produce the best possible TACTICAL SUPPRESSOR suitable for military and LEO use/abuse. Caps because I think it defines a specific product that warrants differentiation from some other company's products. Unfortunately, here in the US everybody wants to sell to the mil/LEO market regardless of suitability because that's where the money is. Everything requires design compromises and compromise always means not everybody is going to be happy with the results. A number of companies produce suppressors which might be any of quieter/louder, smaller/larger, less/more accurate, cheaper/more expensive, difficult/easy to attach, less/more durable, etc. than SureFire's product. As a former soldier I accept fewer compromises when it comes to tactical equipment that lives (especially mine) may depend on. I think SureFire did an excellent job with minimum compromises (QD, size, weight, durability, DB reduction, and price). They addressed every issue I have ever considered desireable in a tactical suppressor and did it in a package that meets the boss' mandate. Of course they got to do it working with state of the art equipment/facilities and they spent a lot of time and money to do it. But they also worked very hard to create an excellent product and they continue to work at making it better. And they insist on keeping it apples vs. apples. Everything is compared/tested to the same standards. If there is a problem - they fix it. I've personally seen that happen. Now if we could just get some of that Euro "noise reduction" attitude, we could all have exactly what we want and I could set up a range in the back yard.

Peregrino

07-21-2005, 12:37	#10
Peregrino Quiet Professional Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Occupied Pineland Posts: 4,701	Tuukka - Thanks for the 10-8forums "heads-up". I liked what I saw. What I looked at seemed very professional. You're right about the attitudes and hyperbole in (some of) the US firms. Too much reliance on egos and marketing hype. I don't think the SureFire suppressor crew has that problem - of course I'm prejudiced. Each time TR drags me out to the plant we try to get by and see them. They are a great bunch of guys and I fully intend to get to know them better. Dr. Mathews (the boss/owner of SureFire) gave them a mandate (as I understand it - TR will know more) to produce the best possible TACTICAL SUPPRESSOR suitable for military and LEO use/abuse. Caps because I think it defines a specific product that warrants differentiation from some other company's products. Unfortunately, here in the US everybody wants to sell to the mil/LEO market regardless of suitability because that's where the money is. Everything requires design compromises and compromise always means not everybody is going to be happy with the results. A number of companies produce suppressors which might be any of quieter/louder, smaller/larger, less/more accurate, cheaper/more expensive, difficult/easy to attach, less/more durable, etc. than SureFire's product. As a former soldier I accept fewer compromises when it comes to tactical equipment that lives (especially mine) may depend on. I think SureFire did an excellent job with minimum compromises (QD, size, weight, durability, DB reduction, and price). They addressed every issue I have ever considered desireable in a tactical suppressor and did it in a package that meets the boss' mandate. Of course they got to do it working with state of the art equipment/facilities and they spent a lot of time and money to do it. But they also worked very hard to create an excellent product and they continue to work at making it better. And they insist on keeping it apples vs. apples. Everything is compared/tested to the same standards. If there is a problem - they fix it. I've personally seen that happen. Now if we could just get some of that Euro "noise reduction" attitude, we could all have exactly what we want and I could set up a range in the back yard. Peregrino Last edited by Peregrino; 07-21-2005 at 12:50.
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