[Bill Harsey]

Just got logged on, lot's of catch up to do. D-9, (Good logging road building machine by the way...spent lots of time driving one) GREAT post on "socialization" best analysis on that topic I've ever read. You will go far Sir. Sacameulas, Sir, I will do some figuring for you on the time question. Time needed seems to increase with age. What I've learned about public schools is that students learn to endure long periods of non-productive, non-learning time while nothing is getting done (dealing with the screw ups etc.), Home Schoolin' compresses the time needed to get same things done. Concerning "tapering into the system" Yes we are trying to do that but for example our nearest high school doesn't know from year to year what science classes are going to be there due to budget concerns. The public school system (Oregon)is breaking the taxpayers who are paying for all the stuff public education has bargained for and demanded. They seem to be running out of money for the class room, all this while collecting more taxes than ever before in the history of the state for the purpose of public school system. No matter how much they get, they need more. This is well documented in Oregon.