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NousDefionsDoc · 03-26-2005, 10:34

I have a mixed opinion about this, mostly because of something I saw years ago. In my opinion, and it is just that, the very thing that makes the USMC the USMC also gets them in trouble at times and can be a HUGE pain in the ass for the rest of the Spec Ops Community. The Marine leadership has been known to make claims regarding this type of work on The Hill. And usually immediately after, the community has to go through (again) the process of "proving" to the meddlers with the checkbooks that every round peg is indeed in their own little round hole.

Everybody thinks they can do FID. After all and as in so many things, the omote appears to be very simple. You have skills, just go impart them. And as in so many things, they never truly understand the ura - they don't even know it is there. They don't understand that it has taken 60 years and thousands of little lessons learned and mistakes and lives to make it look "easy". SF wasn't given the little round hole of FID - SF carved that hole with its teeth.

Now there are scenarios that one may look at and say, "Well, we don't need SF troops to do that." Anybody can teach these guys how to march, BRM, etc. But experience has shown otherwise. I will not name the specifics I saw during my time so as not to start a pissing contest with those of other units or services.

The operational tempo waxes and wains. This will open a Pandora's Box of claims and justifying down the road on the next wain. And USASOC will likely lose a pound of flesh because they allowed copies to be made of the keys to that door. Lessons already learned will have to be re-learned and at the end of the day, nothing will have changed.

03-26-2005, 10:34	#7
NousDefionsDoc Quiet Professional Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA Posts: 1,653	I have a mixed opinion about this, mostly because of something I saw years ago. In my opinion, and it is just that, the very thing that makes the USMC the USMC also gets them in trouble at times and can be a HUGE pain in the ass for the rest of the Spec Ops Community. The Marine leadership has been known to make claims regarding this type of work on The Hill. And usually immediately after, the community has to go through (again) the process of "proving" to the meddlers with the checkbooks that every round peg is indeed in their own little round hole. Everybody thinks they can do FID. After all and as in so many things, the omote appears to be very simple. You have skills, just go impart them. And as in so many things, they never truly understand the ura - they don't even know it is there. They don't understand that it has taken 60 years and thousands of little lessons learned and mistakes and lives to make it look "easy". SF wasn't given the little round hole of FID - SF carved that hole with its teeth. Now there are scenarios that one may look at and say, "Well, we don't need SF troops to do that." Anybody can teach these guys how to march, BRM, etc. But experience has shown otherwise. I will not name the specifics I saw during my time so as not to start a pissing contest with those of other units or services. The operational tempo waxes and wains. This will open a Pandora's Box of claims and justifying down the road on the next wain. And USASOC will likely lose a pound of flesh because they allowed copies to be made of the keys to that door. Lessons already learned will have to be re-learned and at the end of the day, nothing will have changed. __________________ Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home. He knows only The Cause. Still want to quit?
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