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Old 03-24-2005, 10:58   #8
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Hey, hermano:

How do you explain the millions of illegal aliens in the US working, who walked in, have no documentation, are afforded many of the benefits that citizens enjoy, and are actually protected by some communities from identification and deportation?

TR
I call a spade a spade: our government has not historically done its job where border security is concerned, and I do not believe that it is doing its job now.

This is a ding on all of us:

1. there is an economic strata in this country that has learned to rely on cheap, illegal labor. Such employers are culpable. Their profits are feasible because they are able to exploit illegal workers.

2. Americans are spoiled, and prefer that illegal laborers actually do many categories of jobs in this country.

My feeling is that there are laborers all over the world who could and would register to come to America legally to do such jobs. If you look at Canada, for example, they have a serious labor deficit. They import workers from Mexico, the Caribbean, and lately, from Thailand (which is how I learned about this). These workers are imported under offical government pilot programs. The workers are vetted, screened, registered, enter Canada under a visa, and are specifically admitted to work a particular job for a finite time period under the terms of a legal work permit, upon the expiration of which, they are required to return to their country of origin.

In the case of America, rather than permitting illegal aliens to continue to work in undocumented jobs in an informal economy, illegal laborers should all be fired, immediately, and directed to proceed to their nearest immigration office. At this office, they should be registered, issued social security cards and numbers, and either issued visas or returned to their countries of origin. Those who are issued visas should be required to pay taxes, just like any other participant in the US economy. They should be targeted to specific jobs, as is done in the Canadian model, and undesirables should be deported.

Employers that hire illegal aliens should be subjected to stringent, even heinous penalties. The choice should be basic: get legal, or go to jail, and forfeit your business. Period. Without employers willing to hire illegal labor, there is no illegal labor market, and hence no place for illegal workers to go. Remove the incentive, you cripple the existing paradigm. I could give a fuck if we end up paying more for strawberries and lettuce. Those who can afford them will buy them. Those who cannot, will do without. Just like we all did when we were kids, and poor.

If we want to rid ourselves of this dire security problem, then we need to provide a viable alternative, both for those countries which desire to export labor to America, and for those employers that wish to hire cheap foreign labor for low-paying jobs that Americans prefer not to do.

We should offer a 90-day grace period. Any illegal alien apprehended after the expiration of this grace period should be arrested and deported immediately. I do not care whose nanny gets caught in the dragnet, nor do I care if a kid who is a legal citizen has an illegal mother who gets deported, and he misses his math quiz. All illegal workers should either get registered, and get legal, and work for employers who will deduct payroll taxes and social security, or they should go home. No mercy.

Those employers who cannot afford to remain solvent by paying foreign workers more, by paying their withholding taxes and social security, for example, and who cannot afford to handle the accounting required to host foreign workers legally, should file for bankruptcy immediately, and go out of business.

Done deal.

3. Border security. Those military units which conduct training in the CONUS, should henceforth pull 120 day tours of border interdiction duty along every mile of our borders. I mean, the Navy should interdict our shorelines, our Army and Marines should patrol our land borders, and our Air Force should support deployed units and vector them in on infiltrators.

I am not unaware that we are at war. If I am not mistaken, however, units which are preparing to deploy, do still conduct training. That training should henceforth be conducted along our borders. Live ammunition should be used, and infiltrators who attempt to enter America without using a checkpoint should be subject to engagement. Yes, I am advocating the killing of defenseless women and children who cross the Rio Grande. If we kill enough of them, others will stop following them, and temporary workers coming to work here will use border stations like legal temporary workers should.

I am under no illusions whatsoever that these measures will actually be implemented.

Naysayers will claim that the economic impact would be significant. I think that we could handle the turbulence. The impact would be significant on those employers who rely on cheap illegal labor. Too bad.

There would be negative impact on Mexico. Too bad. Millions of Mexican workers could still come here to work, but they would have to do so under the provisions of government programs. This would create a vast new bureaucracy. As much as I hate bureaucracy.....this would amount to the creation of new jobs. It has to be pointed out.

Or....we can pussyfoot around until we have a bunch of angry young Muslim men comfortably ensconced in our cities, preparing to visit our shopping malls and open fire.

Our day of reckoning has not yet come. September 11....was just a taste.

We have no security in America today. We will pay a price for this complacency, and for our lack of efficiency.

If I ever live on the mainland again, and it is far from certain that I will ever return to the US....you will find me up in the hills, armed to the teeth. My guns will be legal. But my defensive security layers will be concentric, they will be both active and passive, and when the conflagrations begin in America, as I believe that they will sometime in the next ten years, you had best not come knocking uninvited, or unannounced. Those who need to know will always know the running password.

Others....should go sell encyclopedias elsewhere.
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