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Old 10-02-2017, 22:20   #35
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Originally Posted by miclo18d View Post
I concur with guy. TCCC is not going to be trained on a mass scale and you’re not going to be carrying CATs to a country music concert. Traditional city medical procedures don’t work well in combat style environments. Triage, wound treatment, transportation. A single hospital would be overwhelmed. This is not a daily event here.

This is a tragic event and is going to get analyzed 6 ways to Sunday. Let’s mourn the dead first and analyze in a few days.
Concur. IIRC from the early 2000 lesson-learned JSOMTC slides, the best medicine under fire is superior fire power. When the adversary has superior position and firepower, I suppose haul ass is a reasonable option. The slides show cases from Vietnam and Iraq where the helper (two to three) ends up becoming casualties too. Many of you have seen the slides I'm sure.

I recently did a pre-deployment TCCC/MARCH and I wouldn't want any of the new trainee doing TQ under fire

Having said that, in the context of safe area i.e. after the perp self administered lethal dose of lead, I agree with Pat. It's moving to see people holding and comforting the hands of the wounded/dying, but helping them would be preferable.
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