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Originally Posted by miclo18d
Grey area, absolutely.
Forensics can only tell you that sexual contact happened. Rape is determined by forcible penetration that can show trauma to labia and mons. The fact that sexual contact happened does not prove rape.
Again, regret is not rape. If two people get drunk and decide to bump uglies. That is again a life lesson. Both parties may regret the decision, not just the female. Oops, an 18-20 year child support payment isn't the most fun thing. Nor is herpaghonnasyphilaids.
On the subject of leader/subordinate, boss/employee, instructor/student, person of authority/powerless, any relationship here is inappropriately unethical and should be avoided. I was in an MI Bn and saw it happen all the time. Stories of teachers with students, cops with detained persons, employers hitting on employees, etc. the person of power is always wrong and should receive punishment and/or charged with a crime, depending on level of authority to do so.
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Concur. However, just need to clarify:
The crux of rape is consent, then in various states it breaks down to which body part penetrating which part. People have rough consensual sex all the time resulting in all kinds of trauma. Conversely, because of alcohol, state of arousal, anatomical features, etc. rape can leave no sign of trauma whatsoever. A little TMI, but well-estrogenized hymen and introitus can be very robust. Seen it too many times. That's why often after being so calm the alleged victims broke down when you told them no abrasion, tear, lac, bruising etc. because suddenly they think no one would believe them.
But yes, the worst an alleged perpetrator can do is say I didn't do it and then the kit shows DNA. If he or she say it was consensual, the kit is practically useless.
Yes, all shades of gray indeed.
IMHOO, prevention is key i.e. Mike Pence/Billy Graham rule but the social experiment in the last few years is anything but preventive
