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Old 08-26-2017, 11:47   #23
frostfire
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Originally Posted by 35NCO View Post
It got to a point where I would not even acknowledge their precence unless they had a battle and I had a battle too. Miserable time. Very easy to have you career ruined by some kid male/female/whatever just because you annoyed them.
Brings back memory of mixed gender training. I was very vigilant and did just what you and sfshooter wrote. I kept everything in professional setting, to include with one attractive and "attentive" female. One day I found myself in hall way with no one else around. She entered the hall way. I kept 3ft distance. Out of nowhere she closed in, shoved me to the floor, smirked and walked away. It was surreal (should have better peripheral awareness). Before I found permanent housing at Bragg, she offered me to stay at her place. Needless to say, I made stuff up to wiggle out of the invitation.


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Consensual gets the DS busted too. The trainee would get a slap on the wrist. A DS or any other Army instructor, whether civilian or military, must have absolutely no sexual escapades with students. The instructor is at fault.
Rightfully so. Abuse of authority is a clear line (except if you're Bill Clinton).
One of the O in my unit had consensual episodes with lower enlisted down range (not that uncommon). Well, he evoked the "hell hath no fury..." from the lass. His promotion list got cancelled and he received a permanent flag. While she may be textbook fill-in-the-blank, what did he expect really

Even in liberal Europe, physical relationship between the subject and his/her figure of authority is no go.

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Regret is not rape; forcing sex is rape. One is a life lesson the other should be a prison sentence.
After doing so many sexual assault kit, I submit that throw alcohol to the mix, power dynamic, and current culture, and it's all gray. I've come to the point where I tell both alleged victim and alleged perpetrator I believe both of them and I just stick to the forensic facts.
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