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Old 04-16-2017, 08:55   #24
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Originally Posted by miclo18d View Post
I had read once that South Vietnam was completely under control by the south against the Vietcong because of Special Forces. It was when they escalated and brought in conventional troops that Ho Chi Minh committed the north and everything went down hill.

I saw so much assclownery when I worked with conventional forces. They really thought they could do UW/FID (or if you will nation building in an unconventional way) and their commanders would have jirgas completely shaved with their helmets on. It was embarrassing.

This is a broken record that has played itself many times. The conventional military drools at the thought of justifying its budget!
Almost alarming that just last night my wife's friends stopped by. I was talking about this current conflict with a Vietnam era Marine when he mentioned the USS Maddox incident and how because of that incident Lyndon B. Johnson ordered the rapid deployment and expansion into the war. The rest they say is history. There is also a lot of hidden history between bedfellows and connections to LBJ from Bell Textron, Martin Marietta and others to indicate that hundreds of billions of dollars were meant to be made by the MIC if escalating the war was somehow possible. Well, it was possible, although it was a lie...

Gulf Of Tonkin Incident: http://www.historynet.com/case-close...n-incident.htm
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