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Old 05-13-2014, 15:51   #9
atticus finch
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by edoo118 View Post
Unless you're referring to another shooting I'm unaware of, she was in Texas. The 93 year old was waving a gun around and had already discharged it twice. Someone points a gun at me, I don't care how old they are. They're a lethal threat, and will be dealt with accordingly. Or maybe we should allow anyone over 90 to just shoot whoever they want.
I'm not a police officer so I won't preach about "well they should have done this or that" But what about some options?
Has it been determined she pointed and fired at the officers? Or did she crank off a couple rounds before they were there?
It is a truth, a police officer does have a bonafide right to self-defense, not to be confused with what we see going on today in the name of "officer safety"
Collectivisation by whatever means and/or towards whatever purpose, in this case ostensibly professional law enforcement. Does not grant, delegate, or otherwise transfer rights an individual would not normally have, you can't transfer authority or ownership of something you don't have or own.
However we all have the basic right to self-defense, in collectivising our resources and delegating some of our personal authority, that is transferred to the individual officer. Although as I said, this "officer safety" thing has gotten completely out of control and been perverted into something genuinely frightening.
Having said all that & hopefully avoided an argument,
If she cranked off a round before they were there, was she calm or less agitated ? Maybe talk them/her down off the emotional ledge? I can't help but think thing ratchet up immeasurably once the cops show up, IF she wasn't cranking off rounds at the officers, take some time and talk her down to a rational level?
What about simply the officers backing up and/or calling for swat to wait her out or deal with the situation?
I wonder if a cops best weapon in a lot of cases including this, is time. Wait them out until they calm down, in her case given her age maybe just fall asleep, etc.
Any options or possible choices, assuming they weren't immediately under fire? If they were under fire, repeat my earlier part about legitimate self defense, assuming that was thier only viable choice.

It seems too much nowadays this 'officer safety' excuse has turned LE into something to be genuinely untrustworthy and becoming a real danger to the public, hence people looking at situations such as this and wondering if it's more of the same.
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