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Old 04-17-2014, 05:31   #213
miclo18d
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Originally Posted by TacOfficer View Post
I finally got around to watching the Iowa video.

First off, the police were wearing what looked like Tru-spec green uniforms and clearly marked police vests, not ACUs or camouflage Ninja pajamas. Every yahoo with a credit card and dial-up connection can order those....
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First off I apologize if I shot out any ad hominem attacks. They were an attempt at sarcasm which doesn't always translate between my brain and finger tips. Please forgive me if you took any offense.

However I think that you are missing the Forrest through the trees here.

How about the fact that you are on a Special Forces website, with a screen name of TacOfficer with a picture of a "Secret Squirrel". Do you not find these things as references to SWAT tactics and the fact that militarization of the police force IS in fact happening. Not sure if you know where the term "Secret Squirrel" comes from? Well back in the 80's that's what us Rangers used to call Delta Force guys because we weren't allowed to mention "The Unit" by name. Pretty ironic, eh?

The fact that you missed my references to "Ninjas" was pretty interesting as you brought up that they were wearing Tru-Spec pants as opposed to Military uniforms or ninja suits. "Ninja", is also a reference to special operations, because we sneak around in the dark. It doesn't matter what your/other's SWAT team wears, BDU, ACU, MultiCam...etc. They are wearing them in the style of the military. Why? Do you have a reason to camouflage yourselves getting out of your squad cars? When was the last time you went to the woods? If that office bought their SWAT officers Tru-Spec pants, I applaud the purchase officer for saving us a few tax dollars! You again missed the point, that was, why do you need a SWAT raid to catch a couple of low-life, penny-ante, drug dealers. Did this "hardcore crew" have a history of shooting at police? I bet not. As you said yourself, the only thing he was missing was the Lord's Prayer.

Do you mean to tell me that the only way you can arrest or search a premises is to conduct a SWAT raid? Do you not gather intelligence on your criminals? Could you not catch them when out and about, follow them? Search the home when no one is there? If the quantity of drugs in that house was so small that they could flush it down the toilet, I'm afraid you are wasting tax dollars. You are going after low-hanging fruit. That's lazy in my book. Intent to sell, Distribution, delivery. WOW! How about 40 pounds of marijuana seized. That would be much more impressive than we got a guy with an ounce of weed as he tried to flush it down the toilet, let's nail him for "delivery". How about turning him. Create a source. Create intelligence for your area and go after the big boys, building a case. Do you think we just went house to house looking for Talibs in Afghanistan? Wrong. We had to build cases, with multiple sources before we could "raid" the house. Then had to get our plan approved with other courses of action instead of a raid. I wasn't putting all that time in to catch "Muhammad-the-pissant-rifleman". That's the REAL military reality. Not this wannabe stuff that is turning our citizenry against our police. If you don't see THAT, it may be too late.

Special Operations, specifically Special Forces lives by the creed of "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar". A carrot and stick mentality. You try the honey (or carrot) before you try the vinegar (the stick). You don't alienate the populace that way. You convince the populace you are on their side (cops and citizens against the criminals) NOT the us against them (cops/thin blue line against the citizens that some of whom happen to be criminals but everyone else is "helping them")
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