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Originally Posted by miclo18d
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"Mayberry has fallen, domestic terrorism exists" - and by militarizing the police you create the self licking ice cream cone. The preverbal self fulfilling prophecy by creating the world that the 'domestic terrorists' see by the militarization of the police. McVeigh blew up that building because he believed the police were becoming militarized which made the police militarized. Yay, the world changed! Let's just be communists while were in the game of fundamentally changing everything!
I guess you forgot when the oppressed immigrant boys were being sought, all of the 4th amendment protections of the citizens of the area being violated. The fact that their 2nd amendment rights have already been revoked so that they have to depend on the militarized police force to kick in their own doors to look for the extremely dangerous kid hiding in a boat. Then shooting said UNARMED criminal in the name of officer safety (probably while doing the PMMA - Police Modified Mexican Ambush).
If the shoe fits Officer Fife...
I can take care of any terrorists and bombs on my street, not sure if you and your tacticool ninjas can say the same. He'll, your fellow federal agents can't even police up a herd of cows.
If your job description and oath doesn't include "jack booted thug" or "constitutional rapist" in it then make sure that you're not acting like it.
I think you've mistaken this thread as a bust on cops thread. It's more like a 'when the hell did cops become commandos?' thread.
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McVeigh was a psychopath that took it upon himself to avenge the deaths of Ruby Ridge and Waco buy killing 168 men, women and children and wounding over 600.
I'm not what you call one of his fans.
If your argument is that the perceptions of the police justify or incite violent antisocial behavior, then I fail to follow your logic to its end.
I suppose you forgot the rule concerning "Exigent circumstances"? Yes, I would like the police combing through my neighborhood looking for the offenders who blew up the Boston Marathon. I must admit I'm not aware of the MSM posting the citizen's complaints because the police were violating their rights.
I would have loved to try Aunt Bea's homemade pie.
I'm sure you can take of yourself, I'm willing to bet that most on this forum have the right mindset and formal training to address the threat, however we also serve those that are unable or unwilling. As for the cow thing, one of the few time I agree with the Feds, they chose to de-escalate a situation that had the potential for loss of life over back fees and steak.
Heck, I was never issued those boots and frankly they don't seem comfortable, though the mounted unit uses them.
I have seen my share of extremist over play the "Constitution" card as much as others play the "Race" card. Sometimes all at once! I serve, protect and defend everyone's constitutional rights. I don't disagree that there is over zealous and sometimes criminal behavior by the Feds i.e: Fast and Furious or police i.e Abbate (our local politically connected idiot). Believe it or not in my opinion, our biggest issue in the department are those hired either by PC or cronyism that are absolute dogs. They wouldn't get off their butts to save the proverbial "Granny", let alone make the effort to violate somebody's rights.
It did seem to be going that way, I do not take offense when abuses are brought to light. Every house needs to be cleaned. Police aren't commando's, agreed. To ignore or not be prepared to respond to the threat is foolish. Just because someone doesn't like the image of a policeman carrying an AR with body amour, doesn't mean I'm going to an active shooter or gang shooting in my dress blues with my dad's Colt six shooter. The police were caught with their pants down during the North Hollywood, CA bank robbery. I wouldn't call it self-fulfilling, I would call it lesson learned.