[MtnGoat]

Originally Posted by Max_Tab

So the new website just went up and I have a couple comments.

1. Since when are the SEAL's claiming OSS as there lineage? http://specialoperations.com/28286/us-navy-seals-oss/

2. When did the SEALS claim UW as one of there core missions, or did they? (they very well could have I just don't remember hearing about it.)
http://specialoperations.com/28315/u...eals-missions/

UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE
WINNING THE HEARTS AND MINDS WHILE STRENGTHENING THE FISTS
Unconventional Warfare (UW) has been a specialty of the U.S Army’s Green Berets for a very long time and it has been adopted by the SEAL teams as well.

Its purpose is to prepare the battlefield for follow on special operations missions and the occupation of conventional forces. A UW mission can last for months and often years as specially trained SEALs gain access to typically denied areas by building relationships through shared objectives, training and time spent together.

Much like a FID mission UW missions, also known as guerrilla warfare, are typically centered on the training and enabling of foreign forces. UW becomes very different than FID because it is executed under covert or clandestine conditions and it’s typically more aggressive in its nature and its purpose.

UW missions are essential for collecting valuable intelligence that often prevents nasty attacks as well as enables extremely effective offensive strategies. UW units are known to train and enable guerrilla forces in sabotage, intelligence operations, recovery operations and even direct action.

If this now is one of their core missions, did they change bud/s to add a Robin Sage like training event, or are they just so awesome they can do it with no additional training?



My thought; if they want to be SF so bad, that they are trying to take not only our skillset but now also are lineage, why didn't they just join the Army and go to the Q course?

Edited to add: I had posted a couple of these questions on SOFREPS FB page last night, and apparently they didn't like it. This morning my comments were deleted, and I am no longer even allowed to comment.

SF has been written out of, IMO ALL, most PDRs and reports coming out of USSOCOM. Yet the word is that SF is the most asked for element in USSOCOM.

The langauge side, when you start looking at OPI/DLPT scores, SF isn't doing good. The main issue with this is our size. When you take a 100% out of 10k to the 100% out of 5K of the SEALs then throw in MARSOC. A SF Regiment numbers or present ages suck. Yet when you're doing a Ppt briefing and it's all about numbers. That's what is being seen. When SF NCOs don't care about lanaguge and when unit Command and the guys on a ODA don't care about UW and lanaguge, there isn't much that will change.

I've always said that Afghanistan was the best UW exercise going on. Yet whe you try to brief things in UW terms and with that kind of vision, SOTF Commanders and CSM don't see it that way. We have Team Sgts and TM LDRs that have only seen a DA world and they will be in those Company Commander positions shortly and we can only hope that a SGMS/CSM can school them. Yet as TM SGT, IMO they didn't even know how to fill in their "whitespace" and had to have POIs made for them. It took SF 4 to 6 to become DA focused, well it will take that long for us to start think in UW terms.

UW missions are essential for collecting valuable intelligence that often prevents nasty attacks as well as enables extremely effective offensive strategies. UW units are known to train and enable guerrilla forces in sabotage, intelligence operations, recovery operations and even direct action.

MaxTab,

Are you stating this or is this from somewhere?

UW missions are essential for collecting valuable intelligence that often prevents nasty attacks

BaHaha now this is funny stuff.