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Old 07-24-2013, 05:41   #50
miclo18d
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Okay, here is my question...

How often do you see the doors kicked in on the mansion of the drug dealer? I'd venture to say that it happens in the rarest of moments. Why? Because the rich man would have his lawyer bend the LEA over their own desk and rub on some sand filled Vasoline, that's why.

What is the difference if it is MY house? That I don't have a lawyer on retainer?

What about the small drug dealer? Do we kick his door in just because you know he is going to ask for a Public Defender that doesn't care that you kicked his door in?

What is the incidence of criminals shooting at cops serving warrants? Or did all of this stem from the ATFs botched Branch Dividian compound takedown (as well as the botched FBI version that ended in the deaths of nearly everyone there). Couldn't he have been served the warrant in town? Ruby Ridge? These were but the start of the police state and I am by no means one of the tin foil hatters from back then, but I see it now! (The black helos... I was actually riding in those back then )

As far as active shooters go, the saying..."when seconds count" applies. When you have a situation do you wait on the SWAT team to get there? I hope we've gotten smarter than that. First officers on site ARE the "SWAT" team. They get paid to put their lives on the line to save citizens....NOT keep themselves safe (without going into SCOTUS rulings) yes we want to all go home at the end of the day but so do the defenseless!

With better training of individual officers you need the SWAT teams less and less. Lets use the SF team paradigm to illustrate. Take an Infantry company or battalion 150-800 men trained well and can be used as a sledge hammer and accomplish very little strategically. A 12 man ODA can go in use scalpel blade tactics combined with intelligence, humanitarian work, thinking outside the box to get hard tasks accomplished, and work with the indig to produce a strategic outcome in a greater area of influence. 12 HIGHLY trained compared to 150-800 okay trained.

Most cops shoot their guns just a few times a year. A SWAT team much more often. I worked with Laredo SWAT once and after I was done I prayed that I was never in a hostage situation in Laredo. Not that they weren't good guys, not that they didn't have the best equipment that seized drug money could buy, no, theyjust sucked!!!! They couldn't hit the broadside of a barn at 5 meters!!!

Okay, sorry, I'm going to step down off this soapbox for a moment...
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