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Old 07-23-2013, 21:56   #48
fng13
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Originally Posted by 18C4V View Post
First, is no knocks allowed in your state and what is the policy of the city agency that your live in regarding no knocks?

Second, if no knocks are allowed in your state and city, what is the procedure on how to obtain a no knock in the city that you live in?

We have no knocks in California and in the 7 years as a SWAT Team Leader for a major city, I've planned, executed and served hundreds of warrants to include no knocks and night servicable warrants. We have a matrix that defines what's a SWAT warrant or a patrol warrant. We have a diligent process on how we obtain no knock warrants since we are one of the most liberal cities in California and no knocks are rarely authorized. Just because we have a no knock warrant doesn't mean we do a no knock. I choose wether or not, we actually do a knock notice or not. IF we do a no knock, after it's all done, I've asked the people in the house, were you aware that it was the police and not a home invasion? I've yet had a person tell me "no, we did not know it was the police" Every person told me that they knew that it was the police, so we are making sure that people inside knows it's the police.

I understand that police agencies differ from agencies, cities, etc. Some agencies are squared away and others are crap just like in any profession. My two cents is that it boils down to leadership regardless of the agency.

Not trying be disrespectful but how many of those were at the wrong address? I'd venture probably none. Is it fair to assume that the occupants may have had an expectation that the police may one day be knocking down there door because they are knowingly committing a crime?

I think the point is that because I am not expecting the police to kick in my door because I'm not committing a crime I might not be so quick to be aware it is actually the police. There have been several instances where the wrong house has been hit some even exampled in this thread.

Furthermore, if someone is kicking in my door I'm going for my gun, because I can't afford to wait and see if it's the police or a bad guy.

If I was a drug dealer with a violent felony on my record I probably would assume it was the police as I'd be looking for them to come any minute, however, the guy who just doesn't live in a great neighborhood might not be expecting a visit from the police.
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