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Thank you for taking the time to find videos of trigger locks that don't work. Still, I'm not convinced it is impossible to prevent a weapon from firing. What if we tried to or wanted to develop a locking device that is hard to defeat? We were able to get people to and from the moon using slide rules.
TSBITF. We have a thread on locks and safes. for years QPs have purchased, used, evaluated and critiqued a variety of locks and safes. I trust a QPs opinion more then Better HouseKeeping and Consumer Digest.
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The idea that even if my guns are in my locked home that is not good enough is ridiculous, even banks know that you can't have 100% security. If someone wants what you have bad enough they will find a way to get it.
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The most often cited reason for having a gun is home defense. The reason you have guns in your home is because you don't trust the locks on your doors and windows. Therefore, your locked home is not sufficient to protect your guns from criminals and crazies. Nancy Lanza's wasn't.
I don't get the impression you have ever actually seen a vault if you think bank vaults can be mechanically defeated from the outside. It is not nearly as easy as movies make it look (Oh, Kelly's Heroes. Yeah, that was easy . . but they needed a Tiger Tank. It's pretty hard.)
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I can't be liable for everyone else in the world.
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And no one is asking you to. If you use your gun negligently you are liable. If you fail to take reasonable precautions (an effective locking device) to prevent a criminal or crazy from using it to kill or injure others you are liable. This proposal assumes you can be responsible for yourself. It's your gun. It's your responsibility.
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If someone broke in and stole my ginsu knives and went on a stabbing spree should I be liable because I didn't have a sheath lock?
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Before you post you ought to read some of the previous posts, or at least read the post you are commenting on. I am discussing guns, not Ginsu knives, or your chainsaw or your lawnmower. That has been addressed.
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And as far as Lanza is concerned, if I am willing to kill my own mother I'm probably willing to force her to open the gun cabinet first.
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Lanza's mother's guns were not secured. If she had secured them, she might still be alive. Or maybe her son would have killed her with a Ginsu knife but still not gotten the guns.
Maybe, we would be calling Nancy Lanza a hero.
Or maybe she would have given the guns to her son and he would have let her live. I hope not, I like to think people faced with that choice will be courageous. In any case her gun security was negligent and she would be fully liable. Her guns, her responsibility.