[irishj]

Hey guys, you may think you know Chris Grigsby - from this string, you obviously don't. He's no poser - has never stated that he was an SF Soldier - and wasn't. Confusion is easy - perhaps too easy but here's the deal - he has, and did, more for SOF than you probably know or have or had access to - every Group, the SMUs, the Joint and Combined guys, some folks that don't have ORG charts. I read his LOM when he retired - amazing actually - given to him from GEN Cleveland when CC was at 10th SFG. Chris worked for Cleveland as his 4, worked for Haas at JRTC-SOTD as the 4 and an OC, for Eldon Bargewell as his 1SG during Kosovo at the SOC, many others going way back (way back) - why not just ask them - they know he was a 92, the Army says he was a 92 - quite an interesting 92 Series actually with about a decade on the DASR as well - all in all about 18 of 23 in SOF supporting the boys from team level to the basement of the Pentagon at MOSO-ODC and every Theater AOR. The majority of the Component and Joint Leadership ten years ago and the most senior leadership now of "our world" would affirm his 92 series. Talk and surmise and disparage all you want, he's done pretty well since he retired and is accustomed to accepting the mud slinging as he continued to serve. Perhaps a little current fact would be good as well; Chris hired Orville at Red Cheetah when Orville retired last March. Here's a flash - why not pick up the phone and ask Chris was he a 92? I suspect he will affirm.

The BLUF here is that SOF Forces are more than those of us that went to the Q-Course. And although I would never back a person claiming to be a Team guy - Chris was there in a support role and as you know pre-911 that meant just as much then as it does now- Have folks with the "S" identifier not been killed in action while working with "Real SOF" dudes - look it up....you will find it is so.

As far as Chris Grigsby goes we was in SOF units....he supported those units and ergo is a member of the Brotherhood (by proxy). This is why he was allowed to join the SF Association as an associate member.

As far as LTC Gardner goes - The man was an SF Team Leader and served SOF most of his career. We all know officers have functional areas but the dude retired with "Crossed Arrow's) on his uniform and that should be enough for all of to call him a Brother in Arms.

Enough is enough - lets move on from this guy and go after the idiots wearing the SF Crest, Green Beret, Ranger Tab, and a Combat Diver on their uniforms and put them out there as the real posers - we have had guys in our own ranks wear the Ranger Tab, Dive Badge, HALO Badge and all sorts of medals they didn't earn - those are the true "posers".