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Originally Posted by Storm

Once the office of the POTUS was an ideal, greater than the man who inherited the office. Once self-reliance, and sacrifice meant something. Once hard work, wealth and success were considered a barometer of achievement. Once being an American meant keeping your own identity, but also assimilating into the idea of the "American Dream," adding your own gifts into the mix along the way. As Reaper's quote noted, once these people held the majority, and held the other side in check.

Exactly when did this interval occur in American history? (And where?)

Originally Posted by Storm

Over 93% and 71% respectively(last time I saw the numbers) of two minority ethnic groups voted one way. Can somebody please tell me the last time 93% of people could agree on anything substantial? Yet the MSM would have us believe that vote count has nothing to do with skin color, or policy, [the president] was just the best man for the job. Then we have certain Republicans and pundits going with "we have to do more to improve our Latino vote." They seem to be fundamentally misreading the issue, much the way we are misreading the intentions of Islamic jihad.

How much research on national elections have you done? Have you, for example, looked at presidential election results for 1900 in which 98.67% of voters agreed that they did not want a socialist or a populist to be POTUS? Or have you looked at the percentage of America voters who rejected the central tenets of the Free Soil Party and the Liberty Party in the late Antebellum period? (Or was that different because it was in the past and history only counts when you think it should? In which case, how about the overwhelming rejection of the Green and Libertarian parties going back to 1988?)

Additional questions to make sure I'm understanding what you're saying. Is your issue that groups of Americans demonstrate political discipline at the polls or simply the fact that they happen to vote in ways which you disapprove? (That is, if blacks voted for GOP candidates like they once did, would you be bitching?)

And are you comparing Latinos to Jihadists?

Originally Posted by Storm

That being said, those who are hard working, are going to continue to be. We will not give up on these ideals we hold so dear. We must, somehow, change the attitudes of our youth of all colors and creeds, teach them personal responsibility, and character. Hard work and success must be good things, goals to strive for. Then, and only then, will we have the possibility of digging ourselves out of this mess, cold hard reality must overtake perception.

Is it your position that because certain minority groups have the nerve to vote in ways you disapprove that they're not hard working, that they don't have "character," that they don't believe in personal responsibility but they do believe in Santa Claus?